It definitely wasn't me.
Sci Fantasy or do you want Sci Fi?
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It definitely wasn't me.
No. You assumed we need this information. I've read the comic and seen the film.
I am thrilled that you have. How much longer are you planning to bother me with that?
Oh well, what's done is done. There's no reversing the quoting now (unless these two posters were to delete all their recent posts.
Anyway. Star Trek is definitely sci fi, as removing the fi ("fiction") doesn't make sense since it's still a work of fiction. It might be "science fantasy fiction", but that would still make it a form of science fiction. There are times where it isn't very scientific, but that's trumped by all the various episodes that give us sound scientific details, amidst all the nonsense.
Anyway. Star Trek is definitely sci fi, as removing the fi ("fiction") doesn't make sense since it's still a work of fiction. It might be "science fantasy fiction", but that would still make it a form of science fiction. There are times where it isn't very scientific, but that's trumped by all the various episodes that give us sound scientific details, amidst all the nonsense.
First time I've mentioned it. So I figure it will take at least ten more posts until it begins to sink in.
Thank you so much.
Sometimes it should be called, science (in name only) fiction.
I would be happy if they just avoided the lines of pure bullshit.
Not being in our future basically means there can't be the extrapolation required for one of the definitions of sci fi. You could argue it is historical fiction or alternate history, you could call it a period drama...and that little blue text at the beginning would support that.
And then the Kessel run line happened. It's technically a science romance...I think that's what they called the John Carter series, from which Lucas cribbed plenty of language. One part Princess of Mars to one part Dune, shake lightly and serve on a bed of seventies sci fi art covers. Garnish with Kurosawa and serve with a chilled Syd Mead.
There's actually some Kurosawa in it? I'd be curious to know what. I think he's a genius. And I don't use the word lightly.
Elsewhere in the Universe and in the past works fine for me in science fiction context. The extrapolation could be the existence of other civilizations in the Universe.
Yes, SW is high fantasy (evil emperor, mystic warriors, peasant boy born to a high destiny), with spaceships and blasters added cos they're cool, thus making it Space Opera. Trek is in space opera territory when it deals with imperial shenanigans (ongoing drama on Kronos or Romulus), but more usually has a scientific, democratic outlook which is the antithesis of space opera. There's no science in the SW universe, only magic (which is why the 'midichlorian' explanation is regarded as ridiculous); whereas in Trek it is always understood that, however fantastic something may seem, there is a scientific explanation.
Unless it's "A god like alien did it".
And more often than not that means a few lines of technobabble.
And that's why Star Trek is mostly soft science fiction.
That's one way of putting it.
That puts every fantasy novel everywhere straight into sci fi though. (And I know people already put things like Game of Thrones into sci fi , because winter as a metaphor and as an actual season, as well as a way of talking about things like mini ice ages, has totally thrown some literal minded people.) That's not extrapolation, that's supposition.
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