Please no Chakotay-Seven crap.
I would rather add a happy ending between Janeway and Chakotay to my previous list.
Scenes After Voyager's Return - What would you add?
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I would rather add a happy ending between Janeway and Chakotay to my previous list.
We know they don't end up together. I mean, unless Chuckles is Seven's stay at home drone or something.
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Nah, Naomi is Captain's Assistant. Just like she wanted.
Except for the admiral's debrief, most of what I came up with could be handled by a final captain's log. Janeway voice overs, and we see scenes: Sek melds with Tuvok while his wife looks on. Harry hugs his mom. Admiral Paris holds Miral while Tom and B'Elanna look on. At the end, Janeway leaves the bridge, and the credits roll. So a final episode would have been cool, but a few minutes could have provided closure.
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Nope I meant what I wrote
It depends on how you set the rules of the exercise. If you're assuming that everything prior to Voyager's return is canon, including the 7/C ship, then you have to give some closure to it. If you're allowed to extend your alterations further back, I think most of us would gladly erase the pairing from history.
Sometimes, I wonder how the writers could screw up so badly. Then I remember that these are people who couldn't even figure out that an ensign is supposed to make lieutenant, and I lower my expectations accordingly.
Alternatively, Janeway starts to apologize about this to Mrs. Carrey, only for the Mrs. to cut her off with "Oh it's alright, all Joe ever did anyway as drink n' gamble."
- Seven of Nine accepting a position on DS9, where she'll fit in with all the angsty misfits, and find a bestie and mentor in Ezri Dax (who, in addition to being a counselor--which Seven could use--also knows a bit about having a mixed identity and past lives and guilt).
- Naomi meeting her father
- B'Elanna and Tom naming Miral onscreen. I know it's common knowledge now, but it used to drive me crazy that the baby's name was never said onscreen.
- A trial for the Maquis (with the declaration of "time served" in the Delta Quadrant)
- A rematch between Harry Kim and Quark
Chakotay would round up his Maquis crew and maybe some Starfleet crew to find and aid the weaken Maquis who remain in the Dzone. Search for MIA Maquis through out the Starfleet portion of the galaxy and hopefully re-unite and find some healing and solace.
I'd back that on one condition: one of those missing Maquis needs to be Tom Riker. His story needed resolving.
The end could be handled, I suppose, with a mere captain's log. I present two versions of how it could happen. In one, the basic rules are followed: nothing is changed but the ending. In the other, I bend the rules and eradicate the much derided 7/Chakotay pairing. Taking advantage of the dual versions, I also present two variations of the Kim and Wildman families being back together.
In general, I present a scene, followed by Janeway's voice over.
VERSION ALPHA - Chakotay/Seven Pairing Retained
Voyager's bridge. Janeways walks onto it, looks around, and begins making her final statement.
JANEWAY: "Captain's log, stardate 55992.7... this will be Voyager's last log entry for quite some time..."
External shot: Voyager is sliding slowly into a docking berth at a shipyard. Shuttles and other maintainence craft flock busily around her, ready to start repairs, and reverse engineer some Borg tech.
J: "After seven years of relentless enemy attacks and makeshift repairs, the ship will finally receive a much-needed refit in spacedock."
The transporter room. Uniformed Voyager crew are congregating there. Many of them have assorted duffle bags and suitcases. The ones waiting for their turn are exchanging handshakes and hugs. The Doctor is prominently among them. One group, standing on the pad, dematerializes.
J: "This means that our family, and we were a family, despite our conflicts and our dysfunctional members, is finally going their separate ways."
Owen Paris meets Tom Paris. They shake hands, then maybe embrace. Tom turns to B'Elanna. She shakes hands with Owen, then shows little Miral to him. The family is back together, with hopes of reconciliation.
J: "For most of us, this transition is a joyful one. The former Maquis have all been awarded pardons, in recognition of their years of faithful service."
The crew lounge. Naomi Wildman stands on a wooden box and pins a lieutenant's rank pip on her mother's collar. Those present applaud. Among them is a K'tarian, who embraces Samantha.
J: "Long-awaited promotions have finally been awarded."
Harry Kim, also sporting lieutenant insignia, is walking along with his bag over his shoulder when he sees his parents. He hurries over to them and hugs them.
J: "Families, seperated by time and distance, are finally back together."
Cut to a house on Vulcan. Tuvok is undergoing a mind meld with Sek, his son, while his wife looks on.
J: "Lives, put on hold for years, can finally resume... or begin anew."
Seven's quarters. Seven is packing her bag. She hesitates, obviously nervous and uncertain about what's next. Chakotay shows up, also carrying his bag. He speaks to Seven, and they leave the room together.
J: "For a few, feelings are more mixed. For some, this ship was the only home they knew, its crew the only family."
Voyager's corridors. The Equinox crew are being escorted off the ship by armed Starfleet security. None of them look happy.
J: "And sadly, some of our number now have to answer for the choices they made."
Various places on Voyager go to standby mode. The warp core goes offline. The lights go dark. Lights in some corridors dim.
J: "And I cannot help but think of my counterpart, and the many other shipmates of ours who didn't make it home."
Janeway is still standing on the bridge, finishing her recording.
J: "However, for now, I celebrate. Voyager is home, and that's what really matters. Janeway out."
Janeway falls silent. She smiles and looks about the bridge one last time, and then she exits into the turbolift alone. The doors close behind her. End credits.
VERSION BETA - Chakotay/Seven Pairing Deleted
Voyager's bridge. Janeways walks onto it, looks around, and begins making her final statement.
JANEWAY: "Captain's log, stardate 55992.7... this will be Voyager's last log entry for quite some time..."
External shot: Voyager is sliding slowly into a docking berth at a shipyard. Shuttles and other maintainence craft flock busily around her, ready to start repairs, and reverse engineer some Borg tech.
J: "After seven years of relentless enemy attacks and makeshift repairs, the ship will finally receive a much-needed refit in spacedock."
The transporter room. Uniformed Voyager crew are congregating there. Many of them have assorted duffle bags and suitcases. The ones waiting for their turn are exchanging handshakes and hugs. One group, standing on the pad, dematerializes.
J: "This means that our family, and we were a family, despite our conflicts and our dysfunctional members, is finally going their separate ways."
Owen Paris meets Tom Paris. They shake hands, then maybe embrace. Tom turns to B'Elanna. She shakes hands with Owen, then shows little Miral to him. The family is back together, with hopes of reconciliation.
J: "For most of us, this transition is a joyful one. The former Maquis have all been awarded pardons, in recognition of their years of faithful service."
The crew lounge. Captain Janeway pins a lieutenant's rank pip to Harry's collar and shakes his hand. Those present applaud. Among them are a middle aged Asian couple, obviously his parents.
J: "Long-awaited promotions have finally been awarded."
Samantha Wildman, also sporting lieutenant insignia, and Naomi are standing together in a corridor on the station. A K'tarian male, with horns like Naomi's but a little more prominent than hers, approaches them both. Naomi smiles in her adorable way and steps forward and offers her hand to her father.
J: "Families, separated by time and distance, are finally back together."
Cut to a house on Vulcan. Tuvok is undergoing a mind meld with Sek, his son, while his wife looks on.
J: "Lives, put on hold for years, can finally resume... or begin anew."
Seven's quarters. Seven is packing her bag. She hesitates, obviously nervous and uncertain about what's next. the Doctor shows up, also carrying a bag. He speaks to Seven, and they have a brief conversation, then leave the room together.
J: "For a few, feelings are more mixed. For some, this ship was the only home they knew, its crew the only family."
Voyager's corridors. The Equinox crew are being escorted off the ship by armed Starfleet security. None of them look happy.
J: "And sadly, some of our number now have to answer for the choices they made."
Various places on Voyager go to standby mode. The warp core goes offline. The lights go dark. Lights in some corridors dim.
J: "And I cannot help but think of my counterpart, and the many other shipmates of ours who didn't make it home."
Janeway is still standing on the bridge, finishing her recording.
J: "However, for now, I celebrate. Voyager is home, and that's what realy matters. Janeway out."
Janeway falls silent. She smiles and looks about the bridge one last time. And then, Commander Chakotay enters the bridge. Nothing is said, and nothing really needs to be. He gestures toward the turbolift, and she heads for it. They exit into the lift together, and the doors close behind them. End credits.
So... while I think a full episode would have been cool, even a couple minutes added onto Endgame could have been made to work.
In general, I present a scene, followed by Janeway's voice over.
VERSION ALPHA - Chakotay/Seven Pairing Retained
Voyager's bridge. Janeways walks onto it, looks around, and begins making her final statement.
JANEWAY: "Captain's log, stardate 55992.7... this will be Voyager's last log entry for quite some time..."
External shot: Voyager is sliding slowly into a docking berth at a shipyard. Shuttles and other maintainence craft flock busily around her, ready to start repairs, and reverse engineer some Borg tech.
J: "After seven years of relentless enemy attacks and makeshift repairs, the ship will finally receive a much-needed refit in spacedock."
The transporter room. Uniformed Voyager crew are congregating there. Many of them have assorted duffle bags and suitcases. The ones waiting for their turn are exchanging handshakes and hugs. The Doctor is prominently among them. One group, standing on the pad, dematerializes.
J: "This means that our family, and we were a family, despite our conflicts and our dysfunctional members, is finally going their separate ways."
Owen Paris meets Tom Paris. They shake hands, then maybe embrace. Tom turns to B'Elanna. She shakes hands with Owen, then shows little Miral to him. The family is back together, with hopes of reconciliation.
J: "For most of us, this transition is a joyful one. The former Maquis have all been awarded pardons, in recognition of their years of faithful service."
The crew lounge. Naomi Wildman stands on a wooden box and pins a lieutenant's rank pip on her mother's collar. Those present applaud. Among them is a K'tarian, who embraces Samantha.
J: "Long-awaited promotions have finally been awarded."
Harry Kim, also sporting lieutenant insignia, is walking along with his bag over his shoulder when he sees his parents. He hurries over to them and hugs them.
J: "Families, seperated by time and distance, are finally back together."
Cut to a house on Vulcan. Tuvok is undergoing a mind meld with Sek, his son, while his wife looks on.
J: "Lives, put on hold for years, can finally resume... or begin anew."
Seven's quarters. Seven is packing her bag. She hesitates, obviously nervous and uncertain about what's next. Chakotay shows up, also carrying his bag. He speaks to Seven, and they leave the room together.
J: "For a few, feelings are more mixed. For some, this ship was the only home they knew, its crew the only family."
Voyager's corridors. The Equinox crew are being escorted off the ship by armed Starfleet security. None of them look happy.
J: "And sadly, some of our number now have to answer for the choices they made."
Various places on Voyager go to standby mode. The warp core goes offline. The lights go dark. Lights in some corridors dim.
J: "And I cannot help but think of my counterpart, and the many other shipmates of ours who didn't make it home."
Janeway is still standing on the bridge, finishing her recording.
J: "However, for now, I celebrate. Voyager is home, and that's what really matters. Janeway out."
Janeway falls silent. She smiles and looks about the bridge one last time, and then she exits into the turbolift alone. The doors close behind her. End credits.
VERSION BETA - Chakotay/Seven Pairing Deleted
Voyager's bridge. Janeways walks onto it, looks around, and begins making her final statement.
JANEWAY: "Captain's log, stardate 55992.7... this will be Voyager's last log entry for quite some time..."
External shot: Voyager is sliding slowly into a docking berth at a shipyard. Shuttles and other maintainence craft flock busily around her, ready to start repairs, and reverse engineer some Borg tech.
J: "After seven years of relentless enemy attacks and makeshift repairs, the ship will finally receive a much-needed refit in spacedock."
The transporter room. Uniformed Voyager crew are congregating there. Many of them have assorted duffle bags and suitcases. The ones waiting for their turn are exchanging handshakes and hugs. One group, standing on the pad, dematerializes.
J: "This means that our family, and we were a family, despite our conflicts and our dysfunctional members, is finally going their separate ways."
Owen Paris meets Tom Paris. They shake hands, then maybe embrace. Tom turns to B'Elanna. She shakes hands with Owen, then shows little Miral to him. The family is back together, with hopes of reconciliation.
J: "For most of us, this transition is a joyful one. The former Maquis have all been awarded pardons, in recognition of their years of faithful service."
The crew lounge. Captain Janeway pins a lieutenant's rank pip to Harry's collar and shakes his hand. Those present applaud. Among them are a middle aged Asian couple, obviously his parents.
J: "Long-awaited promotions have finally been awarded."
Samantha Wildman, also sporting lieutenant insignia, and Naomi are standing together in a corridor on the station. A K'tarian male, with horns like Naomi's but a little more prominent than hers, approaches them both. Naomi smiles in her adorable way and steps forward and offers her hand to her father.
J: "Families, separated by time and distance, are finally back together."
Cut to a house on Vulcan. Tuvok is undergoing a mind meld with Sek, his son, while his wife looks on.
J: "Lives, put on hold for years, can finally resume... or begin anew."
Seven's quarters. Seven is packing her bag. She hesitates, obviously nervous and uncertain about what's next. the Doctor shows up, also carrying a bag. He speaks to Seven, and they have a brief conversation, then leave the room together.
J: "For a few, feelings are more mixed. For some, this ship was the only home they knew, its crew the only family."
Voyager's corridors. The Equinox crew are being escorted off the ship by armed Starfleet security. None of them look happy.
J: "And sadly, some of our number now have to answer for the choices they made."
Various places on Voyager go to standby mode. The warp core goes offline. The lights go dark. Lights in some corridors dim.
J: "And I cannot help but think of my counterpart, and the many other shipmates of ours who didn't make it home."
Janeway is still standing on the bridge, finishing her recording.
J: "However, for now, I celebrate. Voyager is home, and that's what realy matters. Janeway out."
Janeway falls silent. She smiles and looks about the bridge one last time. And then, Commander Chakotay enters the bridge. Nothing is said, and nothing really needs to be. He gestures toward the turbolift, and she heads for it. They exit into the lift together, and the doors close behind them. End credits.
So... while I think a full episode would have been cool, even a couple minutes added onto Endgame could have been made to work.
I'm now imagining that voice over, South Park's Woodland Critter Christmas style:
'And so the crew did it; to home they headed back. It was the best homecoming for the crew in red and yellow-black. And they lived long and happy lives with their loved ones ever after. Except for Harry Kim, who died of space AIDS one day before his promotion came through. <Harry heard cursing in the background>'
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Maybe a scene at the end that was a parallel to the first set in 2404, with Voyager flying over the Golden Gate Bridge this time the narrator saying it is the 29th(?) anniversary of Voyager returning, with a grey haired Admiral Janeway looking out her apartment window but this time smiling.
(Despite Icheb being dead and Seven of Nine 'off the rails')
(Despite Icheb being dead and Seven of Nine 'off the rails')
One day later, the timeline resets itself. Because that's what happens whenever you promote Harry (Non Sequitur, Before and After, Timeless [?], Endgame, and Online).
Not only that, but it resets itself all the way to the end of "Caretaker Part II"
Not only that, but it resets itself all the way to the end of "Caretaker Part II"
And in the new timeline, instead of leaving the Ocampa at the mercy of the Kazon, who still have guns, Janeway has Voyager stay around and protect them. As part of this, the EMH helps teach them about developing their inherent mental powers.
Six months later, they are not only self sufficient, they have sufficient control over their gifts that they are able to basically do what Kes did in "The Gift", only a lot further. Voyager winds up only a few light years from Earth.
...only for it to turn out to be a nightmarish Parallel Universe Earth where the Nazis won WW II.
But because the Nazis won WWII, Earth was technologically stunted, and all the other races steered clear. They're still using laser weapons and chemical powered personal arms. Janeway uses precision phaser fire to wipe out a few Nazi military centers, then declares herself Empress Janeway, and sets about restoring freedom and democracy.
Have a much older Riker standing on the bridge as the Earth pops up on the viewscreen. Then...
"I knew I'd find you here." -Deanna Troi
"Computer, freeze program." - Riker
"I thought you finished these adventures last month." -Troi
"I finished the last time Neelix was on board. But I wanted to see just how conflicted Janeway was before she made her last decisions while captain of Voyager" - Riker
"Oh. The new incident that you've been stressed about." - Troi
"Yeah. But after seeing Janeway make her decision, I know what I need to do. It's amazing how helpful these historical simulations help my big dilemmas." - Riker
Troi smiles, and kisses her Imzadi. As they both get ready to walk toward the turbolift...
"Computer... end program." - Riker
"I knew I'd find you here." -Deanna Troi
"Computer, freeze program." - Riker
"I thought you finished these adventures last month." -Troi
"I finished the last time Neelix was on board. But I wanted to see just how conflicted Janeway was before she made her last decisions while captain of Voyager" - Riker
"Oh. The new incident that you've been stressed about." - Troi
"Yeah. But after seeing Janeway make her decision, I know what I need to do. It's amazing how helpful these historical simulations help my big dilemmas." - Riker
Troi smiles, and kisses her Imzadi. As they both get ready to walk toward the turbolift...
"Computer... end program." - Riker
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