Save Edith, Create the Mirror Universe
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I will agree to disagree only because I'm not seeing the problem or lack of sense. It's not like the emperor is going to share the wealth of tech knowledge.
Further, they could have become arrogant and tech development could have stagnated while they lorded it over everyone, or they tried to figure out what they'd just been handed through studying it.
Or some political upheaval distracted them.
Or some political upheaval distracted them.
Well, as all we see is Hoshi declaring herself emperor and taking command of the Defiant. How that unfolds is unknown.
That transition was probably difficult.
What if the effect in "The Enemy Within" happened earlier, and the bad versions killed their good half, and somehow managed to survive apart from them?
Quantum duplication at parallel universe level.
I stand by my hypothesis that the MU is the result of "Requiem for a Martian" being an actual TOS episode, written, produced, and aired, rather than a hoax.
That’s what several episodes of the series imply.
What's intriguing is what force continually acts on it, ensuring that the same people get together, have the same kids at the same time, give them the same name. If you ever saw the movie "Sliding Doors" (the first 99% of it anyway), you know that a minor event can cause a life to veer off in two very different directions. But that doesn't happen in the MU, at least not where birth is concerned. Which suggests that in some mysterious way, the two universes influence each other.
Regarding the lack of technological advancement in the Mirror Universe between ENT "IN AMIRROR, DARKLY" and TOS "MIRROR, MIRROR"...
Once the Terrans crushed the rebellions, it's very likely that they became complacent with their superior technology. It would likely take a while to fully reverse engineer the Defiant to make a fleet of them, and then comes building the fleet, so more time there. And that's after they finish the rebellions, which would take a little bit of time since the Defiant is only one ship. (Even with the help of other Terran ships, but dialogue clearly indicated they took massive losses already.)
Add in a likely internal power struggle, at least for a while, with Sato taking over, and the Terran Empire doesn't get stable enough to try advancing further for at least a while. There's also Mirror Spock's prediction of the Empire being overthrown, which indicates it isn't quite as stable as we might think.
There's also something to be said about competition bringing about more advancements more quickly, and if the Terrans don't feel threatened enough, they could very well not bother to rush advancing further, either because they were already the most powerful in the region or their society doesn't really value scientists that much. (There's precedent for this: the Klingons. From STIII to the beginning of TNG, which is about 80 years, Klingon ships didn't really change much. And we know their society doesn't regard scientists very highly.) Maybe even both reasons.
Once the Terrans crushed the rebellions, it's very likely that they became complacent with their superior technology. It would likely take a while to fully reverse engineer the Defiant to make a fleet of them, and then comes building the fleet, so more time there. And that's after they finish the rebellions, which would take a little bit of time since the Defiant is only one ship. (Even with the help of other Terran ships, but dialogue clearly indicated they took massive losses already.)
Add in a likely internal power struggle, at least for a while, with Sato taking over, and the Terran Empire doesn't get stable enough to try advancing further for at least a while. There's also Mirror Spock's prediction of the Empire being overthrown, which indicates it isn't quite as stable as we might think.
There's also something to be said about competition bringing about more advancements more quickly, and if the Terrans don't feel threatened enough, they could very well not bother to rush advancing further, either because they were already the most powerful in the region or their society doesn't really value scientists that much. (There's precedent for this: the Klingons. From STIII to the beginning of TNG, which is about 80 years, Klingon ships didn't really change much. And we know their society doesn't regard scientists very highly.) Maybe even both reasons.
Another strike in the "saving Edith Keeler created the Mirror Universe" theory is the very nature of Earth itself. In Enterprise, an animated graphic of the Terran Empire logo shows Earth spinning in the wrong direction, meaning Mirror Earth has the sun rising in the west and setting in the east. Which would mean Mirror Earth was different right from the very start.
The common argument against this is the animated graphic is just an artistic interpretation and not meant to be taken literally. But then we get to the Terran Empire logo as seen in Disco. Though Earth does indeed spin in the correct direction this time, it depicts different looking continents, specifically they are inverted from how they are meant to be, essentially east and west coasts are swapped. Which still carries the intent that Earth has always been a different planet in the MU.
The common argument against this is the animated graphic is just an artistic interpretation and not meant to be taken literally. But then we get to the Terran Empire logo as seen in Disco. Though Earth does indeed spin in the correct direction this time, it depicts different looking continents, specifically they are inverted from how they are meant to be, essentially east and west coasts are swapped. Which still carries the intent that Earth has always been a different planet in the MU.
Orwellian propaganda?
It's an infinite multiverse. Literally anything is possible. I mean, there must be universes where we are all having this exact same discussion, but from our own personal Zeppelins.
As for the Defiant, I always just assumed that either
1) the Empire tried to reverse engineer its technology, but was unsuccessful;
or (and this is my preferred take)
2) the ship was blasted out of the sky as soon as it reached Earth orbit, for Hoshi daring to declare herself Empress.
Occam's Razor trumps that.
There is nothing logical about mirror universes
Thankfully that's just like most humansThere is nothing logical about mirror universes
“Man is not a rational animal; he is a rationalizing animal.
Somewhere out there is a Funhouse Mirror Universe...
Where the Discovery turbolift exists?!
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