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[Newspaper Taxi]

Old Spock spent a good deal of his life after ST:VI working on Vulcan/Romulan relationships dreaming of one day having the two different being re-united. While it's quite probable that Spock wouldn't have lived long enough to see such a dream come true the way things played out for him were tragic: the planet of Romulus was destroyed, even after Spock promising to help; there goes all hope for reunification.That's bad enough, but then Nero blamed Spock for not being able to save the Romulans and goes and destroys planet Vulcan in the past with Spock along for the ride.

Spock witnesses the destruction of both of the planets he was trying to re-unite.

There are some Vulcans still alive, sure -- but if a reunification were to take place now it wouldn't be a reunion so much as it would be one planet taking in a tiny percentage of another culture. Spock's a pretty collected guy so he might be able to be 'pleased' with that result but I'm certain it's nowhere near the scope of his initial dream. Considering all of the things Old Spock has gone and done since the Star Trek series started I think it's a pretty sad end for Old Spock. I suppose they could do something with Old Spock in the next movie, but as it stands, it's a sad end for him.

 

[Therin of Andor]

Considering all of the things Old Spock has gone and done since the Star Trek series started I think it's a pretty sad end for Old Spock. I suppose they could do something with Old Spock in the next movie, but as it stands, it's a sad end for him.

Considering that many of us assumed that he'd be the one sacrificing his life to rid the universe of the threat of Nero, it's great that he ended the movie with a new, lofty goal: resettling the refugees of Vulcan on a new world.

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

Considering all of the things Old Spock has gone and done since the Star Trek series started I think it's a pretty sad end for Old Spock. I suppose they could do something with Old Spock in the next movie, but as it stands, it's a sad end for him.

Considering that many of us assumed that he'd be the one sacrificing his life to rid the universe of the threat of Nero, it's great that he ended the movie with a new, lofty goal: resettling the refugees of Vulcan on a new world.

If this is the last we see of Spock Prime, then it's a fitting farewell to his character.

 

[EnsignRicky]

See ya Spock, wouldn't wanna be ya Spock.

 

[Franklin]

It's a melancholy good-bye in the movie.

But, thank God the comic isn't canon, because it could've been worse. In the comic, he was neither believed by the Romulans nor trusted by the Vulcans when he warned them about the Hobus star. To be blunt, both sides must've thought of him as some kind of kook with zero credibility. Not a nice picture. Not a nice way to end a heroic career.

 

[barnaclelapse]

Considering all of the things Old Spock has gone and done since the Star Trek series started I think it's a pretty sad end for Old Spock. I suppose they could do something with Old Spock in the next movie, but as it stands, it's a sad end for him.

Considering that many of us assumed that he'd be the one sacrificing his life to rid the universe of the threat of Nero, it's great that he ended the movie with a new, lofty goal: resettling the refugees of Vulcan on a new world.

Hell yeah.

That crazy old bastard can probably do it, too.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

Maybe the Vulcan we saw in TNG was really an old, old colony they renamed Vulcan. If the Vulcans we saw in ENT were any indication, they're good at burying the truth and pretending something never happened. "This is Vulcan and has always been Vulcan"
So now, it can be the same, only slightly altered, timeline.

 

[trampledamage]

That's an interesting idea - there's no reason why they wouldn't call the new colony "Vulcan" - the other one doesn't exist any more.

 

[CinC_UFPForces]

Maybe the Vulcan we saw in TNG was really an old, old colony they renamed Vulcan. If the Vulcans we saw in ENT were any indication, they're good at burying the truth and pretending something never happened. "This is Vulcan and has always been Vulcan"
So now, it can be the same, only slightly altered, timeline.

Who could possibly forget the crisis in which a impossibly advanced starship destroyed a planet killing six billion people and very nearly did the same to the capital of the Federation? It isn't as if other people didn't notice these events.

It's a little like the prime minister of Japan asserting one day that Hiroshima and Nagasaki are as they were on August 5th, 1945, and nothing untoward ever happened. Who could possibly be fooled by that?

 

[Sharr Khan]

Maybe the Vulcan we saw in TNG was really an old, old colony they renamed Vulcan. If the Vulcans we saw in ENT were any indication, they're good at burying the truth and pretending something never happened. "This is Vulcan and has always been Vulcan"
So now, it can be the same, only slightly altered, timeline.

Who could possibly forget the crisis in which a impossibly advanced starship destroyed a planet killing six billion people and very nearly did the same to the capital of the Federation? It isn't as if other people didn't notice these events.

It's a little like the prime minister of Japan asserting one day that Hiroshima and Nagasaki are as they were on August 5th, 1945, and nothing untoward ever happened. Who could possibly be fooled by that?

There's little need, or purpose to even bother going through that type of mental gymnastics. Its a different reality so we don't have to pretend that its 24th Century Vulcan homeworld is the same as 'it always was'. That kind of thinking undermines the whole setup of this universe to begin with. Its supposed to be different.

Sharr

 

[DEWLine]

Either "New Vulcan" or "New Minshara", perhaps?

 

[xman]

Maybe the Vulcan we saw in TNG was really an old, old colony they renamed Vulcan. If the Vulcans we saw in ENT were any indication, they're good at burying the truth and pretending something never happened. "This is Vulcan and has always been Vulcan"
So now, it can be the same, only slightly altered, timeline.

T'Pol clearly told Archer that her species evolved on Vulcan and she has the physical characteristics to back it up.
Occam's razor cut you there.

X

 

[trampledamage]

Maybe the Vulcan we saw in TNG was really an old, old colony they renamed Vulcan. If the Vulcans we saw in ENT were any indication, they're good at burying the truth and pretending something never happened. "This is Vulcan and has always been Vulcan"
So now, it can be the same, only slightly altered, timeline.

T'Pol clearly told Archer that her species evolved on Vulcan and she has the physical characteristics to back it up.
Occam's razor cut you there.

X

Except that Enterprise is before the destruction of Vulcan - so she would be from the original Vulcan.

 

[Anticitizen]

The argument that the Vulcan of PrimeTrek is a different Vulcan is shot down in both Amok Time and TMP.

In Amok Time, Spock identifies the 'arena' as a place that belonged to his ancestors, and as for TMP... 'Our ancestors cast out their animal passions here on these sands...'