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If and it is a big if a TV license inspector comes to your door, you do not have to let them in, they are completely powerless. "Do you have a tv?" "No" "can I check?" "No." Close door. Job done.

It's a shitty service run badly.
 
Is the TV license in the UK any worse than paying a cable bill in the US? It sounds like the only real difference is that it's not optional the way cable is here.

I mean, I guess if one is poor they still have access to OTA for free without breaking the law.

Just seems like an odd model, that gives a government owned TV provider a $3 billion dollar a year head start over its competitors.
 
^^That is the very thing you cannot do without a tv licence, watch or record anything in the UK that is transmitted over terrestrial airways as it is all under the tv licence, and that includes even watching something on your phone in your home, as there is no free tv options in the UK to watch tv, it is simply pay or do not watch............plus the BBC are hard at work trying to get streaming services under the TV licence banner also, meaning that even streaming netflix or Disney into your home would mean you need a tv licence, and they are also trying to move the licence fee over into being a public service like water, lekky or gas, so everyone has no option but to pay it, something similar to the lekky and gas meter standing charge, it is a utter mess, and all done to keep a greedy not fit fir purpose and out of date corporation in their money.

The BBC should have had the UK tax payers apron strings pulled from its hands decades ago.
 
^^That is the very thing you cannot do without a tv licence, watch or record anything in the UK that is transmitted over terrestrial airways as it is all under the tv licence, and that includes even watching something on your phone in your home, as there is no free tv options in the UK to watch tv, it is simply pay or do not watch............plus the BBC are hard at work trying to get streaming services under the TV licence banner also, meaning that even streaming netflix or Disney into your home would mean you need a tv licence, and they are also trying to move the licence fee over into being a public service like water, lekky or gas, so everyone has no option but to pay it, something similar to the lekky and gas meter standing charge, it is a utter mess, and all done to keep a greedy not fit fir purpose and out of date corporation in their money.

The BBC should have had the UK tax payers apron strings pulled from its hands decades ago.
UK-Bros.. what happened to you guys?
 
UK-Bros.. what happened to you guys?
You think that's bad? They used to have to have a radio license just to listen to the radio until 1971 (according to wikipedia). Can you imagine having to make sure every person who bought a car with a radio had a license to have the radio? Or every electronic alarm clock/radio combo sold requiring you to go get a radio license? It's weird to my American brain.
 
Is the TV license in the UK any worse than paying a cable bill in the US? It sounds like the only real difference is that it's not optional the way cable is here.

No, but much like with the NHS certain people won't be happy until we turn into the US.

The BBC isn't perfect but you only have to look at most of the shite being pumped out by ITV and Channel 5 to see that it's still brilliant and still produces fantastic programming overall.
 
Huzzah, black-and-white licenses still exist!

Which is weird, cos I didn’t think there were any B/W sets still capable of receiving a signal, so you’d have to be connecting a box or stick to get anything on it.

As to other parts of the world:

Probably how we will end up, because it’s basically the same set up.
 
No, but much like with the NHS certain people won't be happy until we turn into the US.

The BBC isn't perfect but you only have to look at most of the shite being pumped out by ITV and Channel 5 to see that it's still brilliant and still produces fantastic programming overall.
Yes, and there are certain news organisations and political organisations that are critical of the BBC precisely because they want to end the licence fee. Not because they care about people having to pay it, but because an independent broadcaster that doesn't need to rely on advertising or sponsorship can't be bought.
Whenever you see yet another post telling you that Dr Who is woke/failing etc (or any other BBC show, or the corporation in general), ask yourself why does this person/organisation care?
That's not to say you shouldn't criticise the BBC or the show, but there are those out there that have a wider agenda.
 
Yes, and there are certain news organisations and political organisations that are critical of the BBC precisely because they want to end the licence fee. Not because they care about people having to pay it, but because an independent broadcaster that doesn't need to rely on advertising or sponsorship can't be bought.
Whenever you see yet another post telling you that Dr Who is woke/failing etc (or any other BBC show, or the corporation in general), ask yourself why does this person/organisation care?
That's not to say you shouldn't criticise the BBC or the show, but there are those out there that have a wider agenda.

Can’t be bought.
But… can be, for want of a better term, infiltrated and ideologically shaped. (Which isn’t to say I think it’s some great Left Wing Conspiracy (TM) but at the same time, it always leans a particular way in places until someone decides to straighten it up a bit.)

They found other ways to buy in anyway.

Saying all of that, I am *very* fond of the Beeb, but think it’s been on a hiding to trouble since the push for, and the embracing the rise of, the new independents in the nineties.
As it stands, it’s a business with government protections and monopolies, rather than a public serving body.
Even ITV and similar were better off under the varied models of the eighties and early nineties, whereas now it’s all gone a bit Pete Tong. Not least due to death of a thousand cuts of what was the rather excellent Advertising Industry in the UK.

Oddly, that’s the era RTD cut his teeth in, then in part helped remove, and doesn’t seem to have caught up with how audience works now. By his own admission in some areas, and by obvious observation of his work in others.
 
Why doesn’t BBC just scramble their signal? If it’s pay-to-play, at least be honest about it.

The BBC in no way will willingly give people the option to pay for the TV licence or not to pay for it, because they know in doing so they will lose the majority of the tv licence payers overnight, it is that simple, so they will stick with this enforced tv licence for as long as possible, but it cannot continue because the tax payers are also getting annoyed at the unending rise of the tv licence, so at some point the BBC are going to have to fund themselves because every year more people are deciding they no longer want uk terrestral tv in their homes and instead are using said money to stream other services instead, and this is true for the younger generation who have no interest in the old UK terrestrial tv, so at some point enough of the UK will no longer require a tv licence and the BBC will have no option but to find alternative ways to fund themselves, and it is already on the cards and is just a matter of time when the tv licence payers are below a level that the BBC can no longer be sustained by it.
 
The BBC in no way will willingly give people the option to pay for the TV licence or not to pay for it, because they know in doing so they will lose the majority of the tv licence payers overnight, it is that simple, so they will stick with this enforced tv licence for as long as possible, but it cannot continue because the tax payers are also getting annoyed at the unending rise of the tv licence, so at some point the BBC are going to have to fund themselves because every year more people are deciding they no longer want uk terrestral tv in their homes and instead are using said money to stream other services instead, and this is true for the younger generation who have no interest in the old UK terrestrial tv, so at some point enough of the UK will no longer require a tv licence and the BBC will have no option but to find alternative ways to fund themselves, and it is already on the cards and is just a matter of time when the tv licence payers are below a level that the BBC can no longer be sustained by it.

A by-the-by, I don’t want anyone to take my posts as criticism of the way things are done in the UK. Just questions and thoughts by someone who grew up in a completely different environment where OTA is concerned.

It just seems like the need for a license where all money goes to the BBC would stifle the growth of other OTA offerings.
 
If the show can only survive if Tennant is in the lead role then frankly it deserves to die.
That reasoning is why I'm also dismayed with the Billie Piper casting. Although, as I've written, I do understand the reasoning behind and can't really blame them. But I think that's the point we're at now where you need legacy casting to keep the show going.
 
That reasoning is why I'm also dismayed with the Billie Piper casting. Although, as I've written, I do understand the reasoning behind and can't really blame them. But I think that's the point we're at now where you need legacy casting to keep the show going.

Where a lot of properties are at, at this point. Just feeding on their own corpses.
 
The BBC in no way will willingly give people the option to pay for the TV licence or not to pay for it

And quite right, too, because the TV licence is defined in the Communications Act of 2003 and related statutory instruments. Wikipedia lays it out succinctly, but you can also read the legislation on the UK government's legislation website. It's the government's role to decide whether the licence stays or goes
 
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