Rumor: the show takes place between TOS movies and TNG
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Well I owned up to it...I think he meant me and Dennis
That was before the time of the Great Continuity Nazi Era..
I swear to God, back in the sixties, nobody was worrying about the whether the Ron Ely TARZAN tv series was consistent with the most recent drive-in movies, or was insisting that that any new TV show needed to be set in the "Weismuller-verse."
It was a simpler, more civilized time ... before the dark days of the Canon Empire.
I swear to God, back in the sixties, nobody was worrying about the whether the Ron Ely TARZAN tv series was consistent with the most recent drive-in movies, or was insisting that that any new TV show needed to be set in the "Weismuller-verse."
It was a simpler, more civilized time ... before the dark days of the Canon Empire.
These rumour sound pretty thin, I remember the days of the 'Series V' forum where rumours absolutely guaranteeing we would get a Starfleet Academy series were posted and argued about. Personally, this just reads like people running with the famous 'follow on from TUC' comment and ending up adding 2 and 2 and making about 6 billion.
If they're true, I'm a bit disappointed. A 'sandwich' show was the absolute last thing I thought they should do, especially in prime timeline. Hardly anywhere left to manoeuvre that isn't entirely predictable. I'd hope that the showrunners won't have done this, after the lessons learned from ENT.
If they're true, I'm a bit disappointed. A 'sandwich' show was the absolute last thing I thought they should do, especially in prime timeline. Hardly anywhere left to manoeuvre that isn't entirely predictable. I'd hope that the showrunners won't have done this, after the lessons learned from ENT.
No, I didn't mean you. Believing one thing is fine. There were some who tried jamming it down other's throats that it was ridiculous to even consider another possibility! It kind of made a rational discussion of the pros and cons for any setting less pleasant than needed.Well I owned up to it...I think he meant me and Dennis
But, we'll see what happens when the decision is ultimately communicated. I'm sure I'll watch regardless of the universe and time frame. Ultimately, I'll keep watching if the stories are entertaining.
Mr Awe
One constraint will be the cost of making an outer space science fiction show. These require sets, props, and costumes that are designed and built from scratch. So this implies that an anthology, or something similar to Fargo, should reuse the same ship, or ships of identical design.
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I believe the 10-13 episode season, like with "The Expanse"($5 million a pop) will allow them to spend more per show to make it look good. I DOUBT they will do an anthology on Trek.
RAMA
^But neither a denial.
It is a RUMOR. Check. Nothing is confirmed. However...
Nailed it!
It is a RUMOR. Check. Nothing is confirmed. However...
Nailed it!
My two (or five) cents:
- I agree with the other posters that an anthology science fiction show, especially one set in different settings/time periods would likely be too expensive. I think a regular show could bring in high-caliber talent via guest stars and re-occurring characters rather than a few series regulars.
- While I like the idea of an anthology show because of its potential to show multiple parts of the Trek Universe that we haven't seen before, I am more interested in having continuity of characters. Characters who can grow over the seasons, become a family, and become "friends" of mine as opposed to characters I feel like I am dropping into a portion of their lives just to drop out of again.
- I would be interested in seeing the post-cold-war developments of a resurgent USSR/Klingon Empire and how it parallels and can explore the modern world, but I don't see that as being the best approach for a broad, general-audience-attracting "Star Trek" series.
- Thinking back now, I get the feeling that the JJ Universe's idea of "let's start over in a parallel universe so we can avoid the shackles of the old continuity" did exactly the opposite (though maybe Star Trek Beyond will manage to get 'beyond' this encumbrance). Not only were they "locked into" the history of the universe up to the Kelvin (and should be locked into other, unaffectable events like the Doomsday Machine, V-ger, the Whale Probe in IV), they are locked into the same races, general technologies, etc., and they further confined themselves to the same story beats as the old universe (Khan, "Khaaaannnn!", etc.). I get the feeling that a post-TUC, pre-TNG would have the same limits.
- Unfortunately (or fortunately), this rumor is the first "info" about the new series that I have not viewed extremely positively. (Kurtzman's involvement is another minor blip, but I agree with the notion that he has been brought on for his TV production experience (Alias/Fringe/etc.) as opposed to his writing skills/Star Trek parallel universe experience.)
- I agree with the other posters that an anthology science fiction show, especially one set in different settings/time periods would likely be too expensive. I think a regular show could bring in high-caliber talent via guest stars and re-occurring characters rather than a few series regulars.
- While I like the idea of an anthology show because of its potential to show multiple parts of the Trek Universe that we haven't seen before, I am more interested in having continuity of characters. Characters who can grow over the seasons, become a family, and become "friends" of mine as opposed to characters I feel like I am dropping into a portion of their lives just to drop out of again.
- I would be interested in seeing the post-cold-war developments of a resurgent USSR/Klingon Empire and how it parallels and can explore the modern world, but I don't see that as being the best approach for a broad, general-audience-attracting "Star Trek" series.
- Thinking back now, I get the feeling that the JJ Universe's idea of "let's start over in a parallel universe so we can avoid the shackles of the old continuity" did exactly the opposite (though maybe Star Trek Beyond will manage to get 'beyond' this encumbrance). Not only were they "locked into" the history of the universe up to the Kelvin (and should be locked into other, unaffectable events like the Doomsday Machine, V-ger, the Whale Probe in IV), they are locked into the same races, general technologies, etc., and they further confined themselves to the same story beats as the old universe (Khan, "Khaaaannnn!", etc.). I get the feeling that a post-TUC, pre-TNG would have the same limits.
- Unfortunately (or fortunately), this rumor is the first "info" about the new series that I have not viewed extremely positively. (Kurtzman's involvement is another minor blip, but I agree with the notion that he has been brought on for his TV production experience (Alias/Fringe/etc.) as opposed to his writing skills/Star Trek parallel universe experience.)
Did you read the original press release? The word "fans" is used no less than four or five times. Moonves uses it again in his follow up speech. How we can NOT expect this series to be fan service is a mystery to me.
Why would it have to be a prequel to TNG, why not sequel to TOS era as mentioned here: (see full post for more)
Them leaving this space in story time opened ended [for future use?] is starting to make more sense. We've always assumed peace with the Klingons sprung from the events of TUC but what if that was only the beginning of the story. There still is 70 years between the two, allot could have transpired. Will everyone give a crap? Remains to be seen.
Could you repost that original press release and Moonves's follow-up comments?
While I would love to see a reboot like Moore did with NuBSG.......BSG had been completely dormant for 20 + years and they weren't trying to run a show and a movie franchise at the same time......So while WE might could keep things straight I do think it would confuse 99% of folks. We are the 1% of freaks who talk about it ALL THE TIME.
On the other hand, for all the criticisms leveled at SUPERMAN V BATMAN, I have yet to hear of anyone who was "confused" because it didn't follow directly from the Christian Bale BATMAN movies, which were only a few years ago.
"Wait. I thought Batman faked his death and moved to France with Catwoman?" says no one that know of.
Given the example of J.J.s movies, I think that The Powers That Be will be interested in attracting a general-audience/casual-viewers/new-viewers.
TPTB will probably think that best for the bottom line.
TPTB will probably think that best for the bottom line.
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Fan service, remember? The squeaky wheel gets the grease. I think all the fan squeaking for the primeline to be restored has finally sunk into Moonres head. That universe has been a cash cow for a long, long time so to simply chuck it away and let it die on the vine while there are still grapes to gather wouldn't make good business sense either.
Don't get me wrong, I ain't saying anyone is happily throwing bags of cash at the project without assurances. If the rumor is true then someone probably had to sign the contract in blood to make it happen. Now it needs to deliver.
Remember, it's just a rumor.
OPR: https://www.cbspressexpress.com/cbs-entertainment/releases/view?id=43844
Moonres followup: http://www.thewrap.com/star-trek-is-cbs-family-jewels-ceo-leslie-moonves-says/
ETA See LIST previously added here: http://www.trekbbs.com/threads/star...-in-the-jj-verse.276899/page-37#post-11504421
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Thanks for those links. But honestly, I wouldn't try to look too much into the network/politics speechifying in those remarks. Of course CBS want's to make the "fans" happy; that's how they get money, by having fans of their shows watch their shows and pay even more money to have All Access.
