Rumor: the show takes place between TOS movies and TNG
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We can hope it is true. Sounds like a cool idea to me.
On the other hand, for all the criticisms leveled at SUPERMAN V BATMAN, I have yet to hear of anyone who was "confused" because it didn't follow directly from the Christian Bale BATMAN movies, which were only a few years ago.
"Wait. I thought Batman faked his death and moved to France with Catwoman?" says no one that know of.
This reminds me... somebody posted a bad review of Batman Begins on Amazon because Joe Chill killed Bruce's parents, when it was supposed to be Jack Napier, as clearly shown in the 1989 Batman.
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This reminds me... somebody posted a bad review of Batman Begins on Amazon because Joe Chill killed Bruce's parents, when it was supposed to be Jack Napier, as clearly shown in the 1989 Batman.
Kor
Hah!
Reminds me of the folks who objected to SMALLVILLE establishing that Clark and Lex had once been friends in Smallville, even though that had been the case all through the Silver Age . . ..
After everything Faraci said about Suicide Squad was proven false, I'm not going to believe this until I hear confirmation from a more reliable source.
Honestly, I think setting it between two series like this would be a mistake, it would be even more limiting than a prequel. Something like this can work for the tie ins that are built around the shows and movies, but I think the new series should be allowed more room the breath than they have.
We did have some villainous Klingons in Enterprise, and the Klingons in Into Darkness were kind of villainous, so it really hasn't been that long.
Honestly, I think setting it between two series like this would be a mistake, it would be even more limiting than a prequel. Something like this can work for the tie ins that are built around the shows and movies, but I think the new series should be allowed more room the breath than they have.
We did have some villainous Klingons in Enterprise, and the Klingons in Into Darkness were kind of villainous, so it really hasn't been that long.
That was before the time of the Great Continuity Nazi Era.
It was a simpler, more civilized time ... before the dark days of the Canon Empire.
I'm Trademarking these great terms even as I type!
Yeah, I don't think we're going to hear anything official about the new series before ST:Beyond comes out. An anthology could work if set design was done creatively. Hell, sets have been reused constantly through earlier series. The anthology idea for Trek isn't unique either in a way. There's that interview that Franz Joseph daughter(?) gave in the early 80's that he had, that if Star Trek was to come back, his idea would be to call it Star Fleet, so you could focus on more than one ship crew, or have colonists, or a station crew. Didn't even Gene Roddenberry said somewhere in his original pitching of TOS that the large Enterprise crew could give his idea the advantages of an anthology, with none of the disadvantages?
See, nothing is truly original!
Ah.
Do we know who's writing the official novelisation of the pilot Greg ?
Alas, that was NOT me being coy . . . .
I haven't heard anything about a novelization yet.
Well said. Everyone should
True. Both sides are jumping to conclusions. I can understand it. The suspense is painful. That being said, there was a lot of unwarranted hubris on display by those who swore that Trek would either never return to TV, or at least not in the near future. You'd think this turn of events would be enough to cause people to think twice before issuing fresh predictions?
Even now you continue to have these armchair quarterback arguments from a marketing/bean-counter perspective as if some of us somehow know how the entertainment business operates better than the professions. I wish sometimes people would stick to simply stating what they want and not trying to rationalize their wants by posing as layman media industry experts.
True. Both sides are jumping to conclusions. I can understand it. The suspense is painful. That being said, there was a lot of unwarranted hubris on display by those who swore that Trek would either never return to TV, or at least not in the near future. You'd think this turn of events would be enough to cause people to think twice before issuing fresh predictions?
Even now you continue to have these armchair quarterback arguments from a marketing/bean-counter perspective as if some of us somehow know how the entertainment business operates better than the professions. I wish sometimes people would stick to simply stating what they want and not trying to rationalize their wants by posing as layman media industry experts.
Why be afraid to make predictions? I could be right or wrong, but life goes on.
Exactly. I think Faraci is full of shit. But if every single thing he predicts turns out to be true, I'll be the first person to say "oops, looks like I was wrong," and then still have high hopes that Fuller, Kurtzman, et. al. will produce a kick-ass show despite the "universe" it takes place in is not my cup of tea. That should be the attitude of Prime universe lovers and Abramsverse lovers alike.
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Oh shit.
Get hyped, boys. Devin Faraci is a pretty trusted source, no? I may be confusing him with someone else.
Makes me laugh regardless with people saying "It's not going to be set after TUC! Meyer was just saying it'd be an influence thematically!"
Actually no Devin Faraci is an (often vile) internet troll with a well known tendency of making shit up in order to generate clicks. He follows a business model not unlike Kotaku. Somehow he gets hits and his stuff gets spread around the internet because he often makes up stuff that people want to hear. He's pure Clickbait. Nothing more.
That's a pity. Alan Dean Foster then...
I guess one way to do a Trek anthology show is have all the series set on the same ship, but separated by a few years. That way we can see the crew, the ship's appearance, and the plot problems progress over a larger timescale than previous series.
(This would also be cool for tie-in writers, who could have fun filling the ready-made gaps.)
Aw, why so sensitive? Anyway, I don't think anyone was "sure" or calling alternate suggestions "absurd". It seems commercially logical to set the series in the same universe as the recent successful movies, and saying "NOOOOO! It has to be Prime! Prime or nothing!" is not a serious counter-argument.
There may well be logical reasons to go with Prime, but "I want" is not one of them.
I like the idea of an anthology series that can be set anywhere and any time/universe every season but I can't see Star Trek going down this route. I love the movie era uniforms and really enjoyed the more militaristic nature of Starfleet in the first 6 movies so of course I'd enjoy a series set in this era but as we already know everything will be fine by the time TNG rolls around I'm not sure it could sustain itself for long. Just look at that abomination "Enterprise". Prequels tend to suck.
I think any time period or universe can work for a Trek show. Enterprise's creative failure in my opinion wasn't that it was prequel; it was that it was filled with unlikable or forgettable characters and failed to take advantage of its time period to build intrigue for the audience until it was too late.
Plus in an era of Netflix binging, Blu Ray releases, and general on demand services, there's never been a more painless method for an audience to follow an intricate universe. Honestly a lost era Trek show now seems like a much easier sell than a prequel show was 15 years ago.
Plus in an era of Netflix binging, Blu Ray releases, and general on demand services, there's never been a more painless method for an audience to follow an intricate universe. Honestly a lost era Trek show now seems like a much easier sell than a prequel show was 15 years ago.
Enterprise general failure was because of the forced temporal cold war. They didn't have the guts to do a real prequel they needed a reset button there, so they have an excuse to whatever they did. Just look how awesome the characters have become during the shows 3rd and especially 4th season. In the right hands the shows 4th season showed how awesome could have been the series.
As for the new show I agree: if done right they can put into any time period they want. I hope we will begin to get some official information soon. The recent Star Trek Room twitter account shows me we aren't that far away from getting some real info. Maybe in May at the big Beyond event they will tell us some TV series info too?
As for the new show I agree: if done right they can put into any time period they want. I hope we will begin to get some official information soon. The recent Star Trek Room twitter account shows me we aren't that far away from getting some real info. Maybe in May at the big Beyond event they will tell us some TV series info too?
I agree that people may not necessarily be confused but the difference between all those other reboots, like Superman, Spiderman etc is that we are used to it. They do it evey three films (ish), Trek however has never been rebooted until the new films, all of the films prior to that point were part of the same continuity. Even then it was an in-universe reboot which means what we know of as the prime continuity still exists.On the other hand, for all the criticisms leveled at SUPERMAN V BATMAN, I have yet to hear of anyone who was "confused" because it didn't follow directly from the Christian Bale BATMAN movies, which were only a few years ago.
"Wait. I thought Batman faked his death and moved to France with Catwoman?" says no one that know of.
A reboot would mean a third timeline and also one running concurrently with another in the JJverse, Bale's Batman was not around the same time as Affleck's. People are struggling at the moment to comprehend that Rogue One is set before The Force Awakens. Its not like you couldnt get over it, people will figure it out eventually but IMO its something they dont need to do and there are other ways to get a similar result, better even. With a reboot people are going to be expecting certain things (events redone in new ways etc). If instead you just start with a new crew, new area of space etc, the possibilties are wide open.
