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Rumor: the show takes place between TOS movies and TNG

Disagree. Another reboot would alienate people from the prime AND JJ supporters..AND confuse casual fans. Bad idea.

RAMA

I would love for it to just be a straight reboot...like how nuBSG was a reboot of old BSG...and yet it still had many callouts and tributes to the original. That's what I'd like to see.



Yeah, that's why it didn't work with ENT. The Klingons there were no different than the Klingons we'd seen before. If they'd have been more like TOS Klingons then it might have been more interesting.
 
The casual fans aren't going to know the difference, or care. If it's a good show, they'll watch it. And the people who were already watching prime Trek and JJ Trek will watch the show regardless.
 
Disagree. Another reboot would alienate people from the prime AND JJ supporters..AND confuse casual fans. Bad idea.

People aren't stupid. If they find the show entertaining, they'll watch regardless of the universe it is set in. That is only important to folks like us.

Ninja'd by Dukhat!
 
The casual fans aren't going to know the difference, or care. If it's a good show, they'll watch it. And the people who were already watching prime Trek and JJ Trek will watch the show regardless.
The JJ Universe brought in lots of casual fans, the vast majority in fact...we might have 3-5 million trekkies, but STID sold over 40 million tickets. These are the people that might be confused.
 
I really doubt that. I'd say that a mix of fans and casual moviegoers originally went to see TWOK way back in 1982, and I'm sure nobody left the theater confused, even though that movie couldn't have been more different than TOS.
 
Not a good comparison really. It was the same universe, same timeline, Same characters, etc. My appraisal still seems apt.

I really doubt that. I'd say that a mix of fans and casual moviegoers originally went to see TWOK way back in 1982, and I'm sure nobody left the theater confused.
 
Yes, perhaps that wasn't a good comparison. How about this one? Did people shake their heads in confusion and vow not to watch nuBSG because it was a reboot and Starbuck was a girl?
 
Yes, perhaps that wasn't a good comparison. How about this one? Did people shake their heads in confusion and vow not to watch nuBSG because it was a reboot and Starbuck was a girl?
Well again, that was a whole generation before. It also never got very good ratings (lower than Enterprise even).

RAMA
 
The JJ Universe brought in lots of casual fans, the vast majority in fact...we might have 3-5 million trekkies, but STID sold over 40 million tickets. These are the people that might be confused.

We're on our third version of Spider Man starting next year, yet people are able to figure it all out. We've had multiple versions of other characters. Star Trek would be fine if the new series was a reboot.

This isn't the 60's or 80's anymore. People are use to multiple versions of the same property.
 
We're on our third version of Spider Man starting next year, yet people are able to figure it all out. We've had multiple versions of other characters. Star Trek would be fine if the new series was a reboot.

This isn't the 60's or 80's anymore. People are use to multiple versions of the same property.
Star Trek is still a niche property. Drag a kid to see Spiderman and they won't really care which version it is. Star Trek? Not the same animal, people ignore it at will, IE: Enterprise, ST Nemesis, etc. Those did not bring in the causal viewers.
 
I think we overestimate how "confusing" this stuff is, even to the casual viewer. As I've written umpteen times before, reboots and remakes never confused people back in the day. Even as a kid, I understood that the various different versions of Tarzan or Zorro or Frankenstein or whatever did not take place in the same, seamless universe and I was fine with that. I didn't go nuts trying to figure out why Universal mummy movies were not consistent with the Hammer mummy movies, nor did I lose sleep worrying about whether the Gold Key comics versions of my favorite shows were "canon" or not.

At the risk of channeling my inner curmudgeon, remember when this stuff was supposed to be fun and we didn't take "timelines" and "continuity" quite so seriously?
 
We're on our third version of Spider Man starting next year, yet people are able to figure it all out. We've had multiple versions of other characters. Star Trek would be fine if the new series was a reboot.

This isn't the 60's or 80's anymore. People are use to multiple versions of the same property.

Trust me, we were used to it back in the Sixties, too. :)

(See previous post.)
 
That was before the time of the Great Continuity Nazi Era. :biggrin:

I remember seeing X-Men in the theater with a bunch of geeks behind me saying how unlike other versions it was.

I think we overestimate how "confusing" this stuff is, even to the casual viewer. As I've written umpteen times before, reboots and remakes never confused people back in the day. Even as a kid, I understood that the various different versions of Tarzan or Zorro or Frankenstein or whatever did not take place in the same, seamless universe and I was fine with that. I didn't go nuts trying to figure out why Universal mummy movies were not consistent with the Hammer mummy movies, nor did I lose sleep worrying about whether the Gold Key comics versions of my favorite shows were "canon" or not.

At the risk of channeling my inner curmudgeon, remember when this stuff was supposed to be fun and we didn't take "timelines" and "continuity" quite so seriously?
 
Star Trek? Not the same animal, people ignore it at will, IE: Enterprise, ST Nemesis, etc. Those did not bring in the causal viewers.

So the proper formula is to place a series in the same continuity that people were already ignoring? Not sure I see the logic there?
 
Um no, not sure how you got that from what I said. I am saying Trek as a franchise does not have absolute support from non-Trekkies, so if they see it as suspect, are confused, or think it's too esoteric, what have you..they will stay away, as in creating a third iteration.

Contrary to what you just said, I am citing JJ Trek as just such the universe to base the new series in BECAUSE it has familiarity and support from the largest group of casual fans. The same 3-5 million Trekkies may watch it, but they'd like another 3-5 million a week to tune in!

RAMA

So the proper formula is to place a series in the same continuity that people were already ignoring? Not sure I see the logic there?
 
Who said that?

Well, I'm not naming names! And, I'm not opposed to someone thinking that the new series would likely be set in the JJverse. It's the blowhards who knew for sure and were out to inform everyone of the absurdity of believing otherwise.

At any rate, I'm not too bothered by which universe it is set in from a story telling standpoint. But, if it was the Prime universe I would get a bit of satisfaction from that! ;)

Mr Awe
 
If you won't name names or link to posts noone is going to believe what you say is true.
 
I was sure it would be set in either the Abramsverse or be a reboot (and I said so). But it is what it is and the final decision is CBS' to make.
 
Well, I'm not naming names! And, I'm not opposed to someone thinking that the new series would likely be set in the JJverse. It's the blowhards who knew for sure and were out to inform everyone of the absurdity of believing otherwise.

If you say so. I will, however, point out that we still have no official confirmation about just where and when the show will be set other than rumors, so at the risk of being one of those "blowhards" that you're describing, I'll say that there's still every possibility that the show will take place in the Abramsverse as much as any other universe.
 
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