Romulan power
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As I've said before the shields must have been updated or even reinforced for a second visit to the Barrier in By Any Other Name! And the fact that after they cross the storm the crew are neutralized by the Kelvans anyway!
JB
JB
It's a bit odd that the issue of the Barrier being dangerous never comes up. The Kelvans lost a ship to it on their way in, and the only objection they or Kirk deal with as regards the outward leg is the distance to Andromeda. Yes, yes, the Kelvans perform "modifications", and quite possibly these protect the crew, but the dialogue really isn't up to snuff there: if Kirk blindly believes in the Kelvan ability to make the Barrier a non-issue, why does he bother to bicker about the distance to Andromeda?
Timo Saloniemi
Timo Saloniemi
Hell the way Kirk ran the ship, anyone could get access. Case in point: Khan Noonian Singh. The man asked to see all the technical manuals of the USS Enterprise; and Kirk before verifying his actual identity just says sure...
^^^
And we all saw how that played out both in the original encounter; and a second encounter 15 years later.
The Enterprise was unable to cross the barrier in Where No Man Has Gone Before! They made contact with it and that was enough for them and they withdrew from the maelstrom! Gary Mitchell and Doctor Elizabeth Dehner had already been affected by it's cataclysmic forces anyway! 
JB
JB
Interestingly, re the deflectors, the animated episode "The Practical Joker" matches GR's assertion that they were projected out away from the ship:
Captain, the Romulan ships are overtaking us.
At close range our deflectors will be unable to
repel their attack.
SPOCK
At close range our deflectors will be unable to
repel their attack.
Then again, Spock could just as well say "At close range our armor will be unable to repel their attack". That is, the penetrating power of the attack increases as the range decreases, for the ages-old reason that the incoming nastiness doesn't get tired on its way there.
But yes, this "matches" the idea that deflectors are ramparts at some distance, and that they can't stop ships, after which they become useless at stopping weapons fire from those ships, too. Although what good are ramparts that can't stop ships (and, presumably, ship-like projectiles) to begin with?
Timo Saloniemi
But yes, this "matches" the idea that deflectors are ramparts at some distance, and that they can't stop ships, after which they become useless at stopping weapons fire from those ships, too. Although what good are ramparts that can't stop ships (and, presumably, ship-like projectiles) to begin with?
Timo Saloniemi
Well, remember on of the main plot points from TOS S1 "Mudd;s Women". The 1701 was in the dire power situation it was in because it expanded its deflector screens to protect Harry Mudd's small ship as it drifted into an asteroid field; so from very early on in the series the Deflector Shields were shown to allow for a varying/adjustable sphere of protection.
Scuse the bump, but I'd forgotten about this...a TMP storyboard that appears to illustrate what Roddenberry described...shield as a bubble all around the ship and deflectors as a more directional effect projected farther out. (Admittedly the bubble here might be intended to be the warp field, but even if so it gets the idea across.)
That's some good art.
Yeah, that's fantastic artwork.
I wonder how much the Star Wars original trilogy films had to do with the confusion in terminology.
I love that. In the TMP we read of layering of force fields and shields
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