Romulan drill in San Francisco Bay

[Captain59]

We must assume Starfleet will salvage the remains of the Romulan drill that fell into the bay. This will give them advanced Rolmulan technology...giving them an edge against Klingons or the Romulans themselves. I wonder if this fact will have some factor in future movies, or simply overlooked.

Or...would Starfleet dispose of it because of the Prime Directive???

 

[The Wormhole]

It'll likely be overlooked.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Was there really much futuristic tech in there? A big plasma beam and a systemwide signal jammer. The drill didn't even seem to be shielded.

We've seen similar deadly beams in Enterprise, from both the Xindi and on Mars in "Terra Prime". I guess the signal jammer would be useful - but I'm not sure if that was a side-effect of the beam or something else inside there.

 

[Satyrquaze]

It'll be awkward later after they forget about it and have to pilot a Klingon BoP under the Golden Gate Bridge and free some whales before the BoP falls into the hole that the drill made.

 

[Timo]

If we assume Nero only had civilian mining tech available when traveling to the 23rd century, a purpose-built jammer that effective might be a bit unlikely. OTOH, he did have more than two decades to come up with one, and his huge ship would probably have been stocked full of useful 24th century spare parts (heck, its hangars apparently contain several not-so-small starships!)

However, I'm inclined to think that the drill is simply a "polluting" technology, and the jamming effect is a side effect a corresponding UFP drill would have suppressed somehow. A cheap-o Romulan mining enterprise wouldn't care, though.

Supposedly, Starfleet ships could slag entire continents with their beam weapons all the way back to "The Cage" at least; ENT suggests the ability emerged much earlier. Nero's drill probably wouldn't be a radical technological breakthrough, even if it were a bit more powerful or practical than corresponding 2250s UFP hardware.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[iguana_tonante]

However, I'm inclined to think that the drill is simply a "polluting" technology, and the jamming effect is a side effect a corresponding UFP drill would have suppressed somehow. A cheap-o Romulan mining enterprise wouldn't care, though.

That's what I thought as well.

 

[Dukhat]

This will give them advanced Rolmulan technology...giving them an edge against Klingons or the Romulans themselves.

But they already have "advanced Romulan (i.e. 24th century) technology" when the Kelvin and her shuttles took scans of the Narada twenty years previously. That's why the Enterprise looks nothing like it does in TOS. So salvaging the drill would make no difference.

 

[JarodRussell]

This will give them advanced Rolmulan technology...giving them an edge against Klingons or the Romulans themselves.

But they already have "advanced Romulan (i.e. 24th century) technology" when the Kelvin and her shuttles took scans of the Narada twenty years previously. That's why the Enterprise looks nothing like it does in TOS. So salvaging the drill would make no difference.

I thought it looked nothing like in TOS because, you know, just because.

 

[Dukhat]

This will give them advanced Rolmulan technology...giving them an edge against Klingons or the Romulans themselves.

But they already have "advanced Romulan (i.e. 24th century) technology" when the Kelvin and her shuttles took scans of the Narada twenty years previously. That's why the Enterprise looks nothing like it does in TOS. So salvaging the drill would make no difference.

I thought it looked nothing like in TOS because, you know, just because.

And you're welcome to think that.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

"Just because" works for me. It'll reduce the posting here a lot, though.

 

[F. King Daniel]

The 2009 Enterprise looks different to the 1965 one because Star Trek's look was reimagined in this movie, just like it was in 1979 with TMP.

If the nuEnterprise has 24th century technology - where is it? It seemed to have the same abilities as the ship from TOS and the old movies.

 

[Cicero]

^ The turbolifts are faster.

 

[Phily B]

They outfitted a mining ship with borg tech, it'd probably not be too effective as a weapon.

 

[Dukhat]

They outfitted a mining ship with borg tech...

I really wish people would stop thinking that what happened in that comic was what actually happened, when it wasn't.

 

[JarodRussell]

They outfitted a mining ship with borg tech...

I really wish people would stop thinking that what happened in that comic was what actually happened, when it wasn't.

Well, it's "The Official Prequel To The Upcoming Motion Picture". Orci & Kurtzman get a story credit.

 

[Set Harth]

They always have the option of somehow canonizing that in a later film.

 

[F. King Daniel]

They outfitted a mining ship with borg tech...

I really wish people would stop thinking that what happened in that comic was what actually happened, when it wasn't.

I think you're taking this "canon"/"non canon" stuff a little too seriously.

The Bluray "Starships" feature mentions Narada's Borg upgrade too - something about substantial enhancements made following the destruction of Romulus being the reason for it's "uniquely fearsome" design.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Well, there's no reason that a storyline from a comic book should come into the discussion of events in the movie. What happened in the movie, happened in the movie.

 

[The Wormhole]

The Bluray "Starships" feature mentions Narada's Borg upgrade too - something about substantial enhancements made following the destruction of Romulus being the reason for it's "uniquely fearsome" design.

Do they actually say that the upgrades are Borg technology on the blu-ray feature, or just mention that it was upgraded?

I agree that Narada was clearly upgraded. Remember, it was not Nero's intention to travel back in time, that happened by accident. If he were truly planning to attack the 24th century Federation, he would need something a bit more impressive than a "simple mining vessel" to get past 24th century Starfleet, thus he upgraded. However, it was stupid fanwank of Countdown to make those upgrades Borg tech.

 

[kkozoriz1]

What sort of Borg tech was mentioned as being installed on the Narada? Self repair? Weapon adaptation? Other than the big mining drill, that seemed to be original equipment, all we saw were fairly standard looking weapons.