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Romulan Civil War

ironduke555

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This goes out to the authors.When the Romulan civil war is finally dealt with I hope everyone remembers to what great extent the Federation went to keep the Romulans out of the Klingon civil war.After all the Federation and Romulans are still allies if I'm not mistaken.And surely the Feds wouldn't be hypocrites.Thats just my 2 cents I'm a big Romulan fan and their position in the book universe just rubs me the wrong way.
 
I can't stand seeing the Romulans so weak and divided.While the Klingons and Feds act like nothings going on. Atleast those filthy Reman are Klingon problems now.
 
ironduke555 said:
I can't stand seeing the Romulans so weak and divided.While the Klingons and Feds act like nothings going on. Atleast those filthy Reman are Klingon problems now.
The Romulans' deviousness, paranoia and mistreatment of others was their undoing. Now they're trying to get back on track and rebuild the Empire. What about it rubs you the wrong way? And the Remans are still Romulans after a fashion.
 
It rubs me the wrong way cause I can't stand seeing them weak.While the Feds and Klingons sit on their stupid alliance and act so high and mighty.Speaking of their alliance, it's one of the dumbest things in Trek ever! It would be like the USA and the USSR being best buds in the cold war. And don't even act like the Feds and Klingons haven't mistreated others and had their own boughts of paranoia.The Cards would never even have joined the Dominion if not for Klingon paranoia.
 
Articles of the federation (one of the better trek books of the last decade and if you haven't read it you should) made me think about the Klingon/Federation alliance - The president makes a big deal of doing business with a race that keeps slaves but haven't the Klingons conquered worlds and reduced many to little better than slaves?

Of course, you could argue that such a double standard reflects the real world ;-)
 
Yes I have read AotF and did enjoy it.But you are correct the double standard that the Federation shows is unreal. When the Romulan civil war is finally dealt with lets see which face the 2 faced Feds show.
 
um, the British and the French used to be nemeses and are now pretty buddy-buddy and fought two World Wars on the same side...

the US and Japan fought one another in a World War and are now buddies.

Britain and Spain fought one another and are now allies.

likewise, Britain fought Germany twice (and beat them in a World Cup soccer final) and are mates.

"Politics makes for strange bedfellows" as someone once said.

Personally, I think the Klingons are better being the UFP's allies than the Romulans because whilst the Romulans are a warrior race and the Feds may prefer to talk, once they get riled, they kick all kinds of ass and they're more honourable in doing it than the sneaky back-stabbers in the RSE.
 
ironduke555 said:
This goes out to the authors.When the Romulan civil war is finally dealt with I hope everyone remembers to what great extent the Federation went to keep the Romulans out of the Klingon civil war.After all the Federation and Romulans are still allies if I'm not mistaken.

You are mistaken. Star Trek Nemesis rather clearly established that the Federation and Romulan Star Empire ended their wartime alliance by 2379; Romulan ale was once again illegal (indicating that the trade embargo had been re-established), and there was talk of a desire to negotiate for peace by the Federation.

So, no, the RSE is not still the Federation's ally. Obviously the Romulans broke off the alliance at some point. I'd say the Federation is being pretty generous by not just moving in and liberating every Romulan vassal world and generally breaking up the Empire. Instead, they're trying to help bring stability to the region.
 
captcalhoun said:
likewise, Britain fought Germany twice (and beat them in a World Cup soccer final) and are mates.

Surely you meant to write they cheated to beat them in a World Cup Final. :devil: ;)
 
AN_D_K said:
diplomacy = two-faced

Well, sort of, but not really. The word "diplomat" means "one with a diploma," i.e. an official document conferring a post or power, in this case the power to represent one's government. And "diploma" means "doubled," i.e. a paper folded double (and perhaps sealed with wax because it's private/official material?). "Face" doesn't enter into the etymology at any point.
 
captcalhoun said:


Personally, I think the Klingons are better being the UFP's allies than the Romulans because whilst the Romulans are a warrior race and the Feds may prefer to talk, once they get riled, they kick all kinds of ass and they're more honourable in doing it than the sneaky back-stabbers in the RSE.
I just want to say that I have to agree with you here. I really don't think there would be any way - other than another war - that the Romulans could be completely trustworthy. At least with the Klingons you pretty much know where you stand at all times.
 
Well, you can't generalize racial attributes like that. Klingon culture nominally values honor, but we've seen our share of devious, backstabbing Klingons, from the Duras family and its supporters to the High Council that covered up that family's crimes and blamed them on Mogh for political expediency. And we've certainly seen decent Romulans now and again, such as the Unification underground members.

So maybe the current government of the Klingon Empire (under Martok) can be trusted more than the Romulan governments we've seen over the past couple of decades. But that doesn't mean the Klingons couldn't succumb to corruption again or that the rank and file of decent Romulan people couldn't kick out their corrupt leaders and put some good ones in their place.

(And there's no such thing as a "warrior race" any more than there's such a thing as a "beekeeper race." Warrior is a function within a society, but no society can exist without people serving a variety of different functions. At most, there can be a race whose dominant culture in the current epoch defines warriors as the most respected and valued members of society. But that, like the decency or corruptness of a government, is a changeable thing, not an essential racial trait.)
 
^I don't know... seems to be there's already plenty of sf out there featuring alien species with hive mentalities. It would have to be a honey of a story to stand out from the background drone.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
 
I hope they kill off Donatra soon. Her incompetence and one-dimensionality (and it seems that she's crammed into every book) are starting to irritate me.
 
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