Romance and DS9
- Thread starter Kate Nichols
- Start date
Looks are subjective. Other things are more important and not because Odo's a shapeshifter...
So you see Bashir as bisexual or possibly pansexual? Or would it be one-sided on Garak's part? Or do you see Garak as bi?
I see Garak as omnisexual, by Andrew Robinson's own assessment. Bashir is bisexual. Both actors were on board with the relationship. So were the writers, to begin with, but then they got cold feet.
Interestingly enough, the writers seemed to have no qualms about having Garak (who was probably in his 50's) have a relationship with an 18 year old girl (Ziyal) to make the gay go away.
Interestingly enough, the writers seemed to have no qualms about having Garak (who was probably in his 50's) have a relationship with an 18 year old girl (Ziyal) to make the gay go away.
Zek and Moogie were the ultimate power-couple of DS9.
Wouldn't see it as going away so much as his sexuality being redefined. And we all know about the O'Brien/Bashir bromance...
What difference does it make if he's married?
Except when the people are gay.
Nope, I am just saying that a bromance could be gayer than some think.
I don't see why they would. People who are rich and famous often marry people decades younger than them. That happens to both sexes but much more often than not it's the man who's the older of the two.
I agree that a Garak and Julian would have been interesting. With O’Brien, it was a typical male friendship, playing games, acting like kids, but with Garak, there was a different type of thing going on.
I am not sure that we should see gayness each time there is an unusual bond between two people of the same sex otherwise, for example, Doc and Marty would be gay in "Back To The Future" or Abbot and Costello, Laurel and Hardy, Holmes and Watson ... Tarzan and Cheetah... wait, Cheetah was female, wasn't she?
Ok, Marty and Doc is just creepy and probably illegal.
Abbot and Costello and Laurel and Hardy? Well, if that gets you hot, I'm not one to judge. And just to be clear, fans have speculated about Watson and Holmes for, like, ever. Google it--it's a thing.
And despite all the inter-species hanky panky going on in the Star Trek franchise, I don't think humans and chimps will get together, at least not until chimps develop space travel.
But Garak and Bashir, sorry if it makes you uncomfortable, but there was soooo much subtext in their first meeting. Did you seriously not see it?
Fortunately, it's not up to you, or even me. The ACTORS were on board. And the writers were on board. Until they weren't.
Abbot and Costello and Laurel and Hardy? Well, if that gets you hot, I'm not one to judge. And just to be clear, fans have speculated about Watson and Holmes for, like, ever. Google it--it's a thing.
And despite all the inter-species hanky panky going on in the Star Trek franchise, I don't think humans and chimps will get together, at least not until chimps develop space travel.
But Garak and Bashir, sorry if it makes you uncomfortable, but there was soooo much subtext in their first meeting. Did you seriously not see it?
Fortunately, it's not up to you, or even me. The ACTORS were on board. And the writers were on board. Until they weren't.
Peter Allan Fields, nor any other writer, conceived of or pushed for Garak to be gay. Andrew Robinson, who was responsible for Garak's behavior in Past Prologue, did not think of Garak as gay. He chose to perform Garak as a hedonist (or omnisexual, as he now says) who uses sexuality to get what he wants from people. It was fans who saw how Garak came on to Bashir and hoped it would lead to a relationship. From my perspective, I'm glad they did not. There were moments in which they gave a wink and a nod to the notion that Bashir might be bisexual, and perhaps they should have developed such a story. Garak, as someone who was both morally compromised and homosexual, would have been par for the course for 90s television, not revolutionary.
Similar threads
