Rock Bottom Girls

[RobertScorpio]

Was there ever time while watching your favorite TREK show, be what ever it was, where you thought 'this show has hit rock bottom. Thats it, its over." Yet, only to see it rise up and go onto new and better heights? If so, which episode burst the bubble, and why do you think it was rock bottom..and what change the whole thing around and got it back on the right track?

Rob
Scorpio

 

[Jono]

Rock bottom for me was one of the 1st season episodes of Enterprise...can't rememeber what it was but after it I stopped watching. It wasn't until after reading favourable comments about season 4 that I took a chance and started to watch it again.

Oh, when watching my favourite show...I should read the topic more closely. Well, my favourite show is DS9 but I've never felt the show hit rock bottom when watching it. When I first saw Emissary I didn't like it and then didn't watch any more until 4 or 5 years later when I saw The Way of the Warrior but it would be two more years until I saw Call to Arms that I actually thought, "Wow, DS9 is pretty cool." Not quite the what you are after though.

 

[Evil_Kirkneivel]

For me it was Enterprise Season 1 - Desert Crossing. I was trying to watch Enterprise, but this episode somehow was the one that convinced me to stop. There just wasn't enough there for me to invest the time to keep tuning in.

Now, much later, I was channel surfing and happened across a season 3 episode and thought, "This is pretty good now!" Then I heard that Manny Coto was coming on board for season 4, and I wanted to watch. I still haven't had time to do so, but I will at some point.

BTW, RobertScorpio, love your questions! And, uniquely, you don't ask a question just so you can answer it. (Next time I'll try to answer a bit better).

 

[JNG]

"A Night in Sickbay" was probably rock bottom for me. I'm not sure there is anyone out there defending this episode, so perhaps I will forego further explanation.

Say what you wish about the Xindi arc, but it lent a sense of purpose to the show that made it less likely something along the lines of "A Night in Sickbay" would reappear. Now I won't stick up for "Rajiin" as a great episode, for example, but at least it somehow connected to a larger storyline so I could accept those developments and not dwell on the rest.

 

[Mach5]

"A Night in Sickbay" was probably rock bottom for me. I'm not sure there is anyone out there defending this episode, so perhaps I will forego further explanation.

Yep, ENT had some really bad episodes during the first two seasons, but it wasn't until I saw "A Night in Sickbay" that I thought: "This is getting sad. Is this all they can come up with? Archers wet dreams?"
But then, thankfully, the Season 3 happened. You know what they say: "We only fall down so we can get up again."

 

[S'kai]

The Voyager episode where Janeway and Chakotay were turned into mud puppies. They should have left them stay that way, and not strain my credulity to the breaking point twice.

 

[Darth_Pazuzu]

It just goes to show you that "jumping the shark" does not necessarily equate with "it's all over!"

Due to failure of nerve or talent, it is possible to jump a shark, but that doesn't mean you cannot eventually come to your senses...and come back armed with a harpoon to shove up that stupid shark's a__!!

Well, as far as Star Trek is concerned, every now and then I would watch an episode that I thought was below par - let's say Vis A Vis (VOY) or Profit And Lace (DS9), or more than a few from the first couple seasons of ENT. But I certainly wasn't shallow enough, or impatient enough, to think to myself "Oh well, that's it! I'm never gonna watch another episode! They permanently suuuuuuucck right now!" Gimme a break, how f___ing juvenile.

 

[The Wormhole]

Enterprise's second season. Too many times during that season I shook my head and said "this is just sad." Enterprise got better by the end of the third season, but it didn't really get good or feel like proper Trek until the fourth season.

 

[HRHTheKING]

The moment Janeway said "this is going to be one crew....a Starfleet crew".

Because at that point, I realised VOY would be an inferior remake of TNG.

Since DS9 ended, Star Trek has been crap.

 

[jgdst]

"A Night in Sickbay" was probably rock bottom for me. I'm not sure there is anyone out there defending this episode, so perhaps I will forego further explanation.

I'm going to be contraversial now and say I defend it It was Precious Cargo that I found hard to digest. Extinction, Exile, North Star, and Bound from Enterprise, and Workforce, Flesh and Blood, Human Error and Natural Law (in fact most of season 7 of Voyager) were also pretty tough to watch, I thought. Though, I've never thought "it's OVER" and initiated divorce proceedings. Until These Are The Voyages. That's a pain that still runs deep, I don't blame Anthony Montgomery for never watching it. Unfortunately, as it happens, there's no way for Enterprise to pick up after that...

The Voyager episode where Janeway and Chakotay were turned into mud puppies. They should have left them stay that way, and not strain my credulity to the breaking point twice.

Ummm... my memory could be a little off here, but I'm not remembering that one. Unless you're talking about Threshold? In which case it was Paris and Janeway...

 

[MeanJoePhaser]

TNG: Rock bottom was somewhere in season 1. Maybe the first or second episode.

DS9: Probably somewhere in season 1, too. Maybe the first or second episode.

Voyager: Neelix's lungs are stolen and Janeway cries for those who stole them.

Enterprise: Easy, DEAR DOCTOR, how not to resolve an ethical crisis.