Robert Carlyle speaks about Universe

[MrPointy]

http://io9.com/5171520/carlyle-reveals-why-this-is-the-darkest-stargate

There's a couple of spoiler-ish things in there.

On one hand, I feel like trolling the show with BSG and Voyager word puns. On the other, I'm looking forward to seeing a dark Stargate show. A Battlestargate, if you will.

Well, if Robert's impressed with what's happening, then it might not suck.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

On one hand, I feel like trolling the show with BSG and Voyager word puns.

Well, no matter how aggressively unambitious the Stargate franchise may be, that kind of thing is never, ever illuminating and often produces useless heat.

 

[MPH]

What he is describing does sound a bit like Stargate version of BSG

 

[James Bond]

You know, this show might not actually suck. I was going to be there for the premiere anyway, but I'm starting to feel pretty hopeful.

I still won't be able to get over the fact they canceled Atlantis for Universe though...

 

[Harvey]

I must admit, I'm not broken up at all over Atlantis' cancellation. The show lost my attention after the first season, and was teetering on abysmal in the last season I saw (the fourth).

Universe has caught my interest, but we'll see. For the writers of Universe to create a dark, adult show they will have to go against almost everything they've been doing for fifteen seasons of television. We'll see if it works, and, by the chance that it does, we'll see if there's an audience for that kind of Stargate.

 

[sidious618]

I must admit, I'm not broken up at all over Atlantis' cancellation. The show lost my attention after the first season, and was teetering on abysmal in the last season I saw (the fourth).

Universe has caught my interest, but we'll see. For the writers of Universe to create a dark, adult show they will have to go against almost everything they've been doing for fifteen seasons of television. We'll see if it works, and, by the chance that it does, we'll see if there's an audience for that kind of Stargate.

I agree there. A dark Stargate show could be very intriguing and I'd love to see it but I'm not sure if they can pull it off.

 

[James Bond]

Usually when Stargate does "dark", it really does it very well. Just look at the Heroes two-parter, for example.

 

[bigdaddy]

They won't be able to pull if off, plain and simple.

When the actors want to start leaving the show the ship will need to get back to Earth, and then the whole point of the show is void.

Also it was meant to be a DVD movie, so year I'm sure this show will work well....

 

[Gertch]

This doesn't bode well. nuBSG ended up as a clusterfrak. I hope they can do dark better than that team did.

 

[rac76]

This doesn't bode well. nuBSG ended up as a clusterfrak. I hope they can do dark better than that team did.

You didn't think that nuBSG was dark? I thought it was too dark at times.

My hubby and I were talking last night about how Moore should go to Stargate to make it dark, and I said that it will not happen since Stargate producers like to have their shows seem "happy go lucky". After 12 years of "happy go lucky" episodes (I know that not every episode was a happy one, but most of them seemed to be like that), do you all think that they can really pull off something dark. I personally don't think that they can, but I will give it a chance when it comes on in the fall.

 

[James Bond]

Also it was meant to be a DVD movie....

Was it?

This doesn't bode well. nuBSG ended up as a clusterfrak. I hope they can do dark better than that team did.

The vast, vast majority of people disagree with your assessment.

 

[bigdaddy]

Yep, their first thought about Universe was that it would be a 2 hour TV/DVD movie. They then started thinknig about expanding and now we are at TV show.

 

[James Bond]

Well either way, I don't really see the relevance of whether or not it was supposed to be a movie.

 

[Gertch]

This doesn't bode well. nuBSG ended up as a clusterfrak. I hope they can do dark better than that team did.

You didn't think that nuBSG was dark? I thought it was too dark at times.

Oh no, I thought it too dark as well.

This doesn't bode well. nuBSG ended up as a clusterfrak. I hope they can do dark better than that team did.

The vast, vast majority of people disagree with your assessment.

Sorry, the rating numbers show it's not even one vast. But that doesn't mean you can't enjoy it and I'm glad you do. I simply hope, for my sake, that it's not as bad as I find nuBSG to be.

 

[PG15]

Yep, their first thought about Universe was that it would be a 2 hour TV/DVD movie. They then started thinknig about expanding and now we are at TV show.

Well, to be fair, Atlantis started out the same way (it was going to spin off from a Lost City movie).

Oh, and SG1 was inspired by a movie.

 

[Brent]

So its just going to be a clone of BSG?

 

[Kelso]

It says a lot about the sterility of the science fiction television genre when any mention of characters enduring hardship is immediately met with cries of ripping off BSG.


I sure hope none of the characters feel emotions or have sex... it would practically be the same show.

 

[archeryguy1701]

I would be interested in seeing this. Atlantis wasn't bad, but it just didn't get me like SG1 did- I just wasn't as interested, invested or into it as I was in SG1 or other shows in general. Hopefully Universe can bring back some of that excitement I used to have for Startgate.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

Funny how I recall that once upon a time, they were saying that SG:A would be "dark" too.

I guess some folks think that "dark" is some sort of magic charm that when slapped as a label on a show, makes it not suck. Without all that pesky "hiring decent writers for a change" nonsense.

This doesn't bode well. nuBSG ended up as a clusterfrak.

And that show actually does have decent writers! But BSG's clusterfrak is still a thousand times more interesting than Stargate's inertia, cowardice and total lack of anything resembling creativity or imagination.

The vast, vast majority of people disagree with your assessment.

The vast, vast majority of people have never heard of BSG or Stargate for that matter.

Of the small number of folks who haven't bailed on BSG long before now, for various reasons, some of them seem happy with it and others are far from happy, and can go into great detail what they find clusterfrakkish about the show. But that's a job for another forum.

 

[Brent]

That's right, they did say SG-A would be darker, we all know how that turned out