If he was unhappy, he could have quit at any time. On the other hand, he could have been fired at any time. Maybe it was just easier to cash the checks than to look for another job.
Robert Beltran says the Prime Directive is 'fascist crap'
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If he was unhappy, he could have quit at any time. On the other hand, he could have been fired at any time. Maybe it was just easier to cash the checks than to look for another job.
I'll quote a line from Ghost Busters (the first one!): "If there's a paycheck in it, I'll believe in anything you want."
I read somewhere that Beltran actually wanted to quit but those in charge didn't allow him to do it.If he was unhappy, he could have quit at any time. On the other hand, he could have been fired at any time. Maybe it was just easier to cash the checks than to look for another job.
Which was actually good, otherwise they might have killed off Chakotay and that would have p***ed me off even more than they already did.
You know what, "On se lasse de plaindre ceux qui se plaignent toujours.", Pierre-Claude BOISTE (1843)
(translation: " We grow tired of pitying those who always complain" Pierre-Claude BOISTE (1843)
While I can understand Beltran's complaint about the weakness of certain scenarios, why
going to overflow with the medias, giving so the impression of bitting the hand of those who fed him? It was a stupid move from his part! He should have made like Mulgrew and Picardo, who, while continuing to do well their job, knew how - to little by little - impose their views?!
In the same, even if the character of Chakotay was weakened, Beltran - like Wang - was in pretty well out, with some relatively important episodes in each season from S5 to s7.
As for his critic about the Prime Directive, that was never about " leaving any species to die in its own filth when you have the ability to help them, just because you wanna let them get through their normal evolutionary processes" but rather, "prohibiting Starfleet personnel from interfering with the internal development of alien civilizations, which are below a certain threshold of technological, scientific and cultural development; preventing starship crews from using their superior technology to impose their own values or ideals on them". The Time Travel, often used in Voyager series, was covered as a Temporal Prime Directive, which prohibits those under its orders from interfering in historical events.
Sorry Mister Beltran, but Humanity is not going around the galaxy or the world playing God. There are always plenty of unforeseen consequences to our actions, including making an unstable situation even more volatile!
There is something else which surprises me: how an actor who played during 7 long seasons can so significantly misunderstand the concepts that drove many of the stories? I mean, hadn't his character already been a Starfleet officer before becoming Maquis, so understanding the Prime Directive (introduced in the first season of the OST series) would be natural for Chakotay., right?!
I guess now you know how certain mainstream religions must feel about DS9. I'm referring of course to Syncretic Zoroastrians.
I think it's a silly thing all around.
Why, exactly, does having a warp drive suddenly make it okay to interfere with a culture? "Oh, your world is about to be destroyed by a giant asteroid? Well, unless you have a warp drive, you can just die in a fiery ball for all we care. Sucks to be you. lrn2technology." Just... what?
And then there's plenty of species that have warp drives but are far and away more primitive than other cultures without it. Take the Ferrengi or Pakleds for example.
Why, exactly, does having a warp drive suddenly make it okay to interfere with a culture? "Oh, your world is about to be destroyed by a giant asteroid? Well, unless you have a warp drive, you can just die in a fiery ball for all we care. Sucks to be you. lrn2technology." Just... what?
And then there's plenty of species that have warp drives but are far and away more primitive than other cultures without it. Take the Ferrengi or Pakleds for example.
Actors aren't necessarily as intelligent as the characters they play.
The PD is good stuff. A given civilisation grows through its growing pains. It learns from them but if the Feds swoop in with a quick fix, the given civilisation doesn't experience that hard lesson, it doesn't really grow. I don't subscribe to the "Roddenberry vision" insofar as one can be discerned but the PD is one aspect I do agree with.
The one caveat is when a civilisation faces extinction per say and you have the power to covertly see that doesn't happen. i.e. by manipulating the atmosphere or altering the curse of potential cataclysmic meteor. That's a genuine quandary. Does one 'let nature take it's course' or does one act presuming the natives are none the wiser.
The one caveat is when a civilisation faces extinction per say and you have the power to covertly see that doesn't happen. i.e. by manipulating the atmosphere or altering the curse of potential cataclysmic meteor. That's a genuine quandary. Does one 'let nature take it's course' or does one act presuming the natives are none the wiser.
The episode that should have been written would have had Archer agree to help and give them the tech to do so. Then later we find out, (or have a sequel episode) that the world completely mismanaged the tech and things are worse off than they would have been otherwise.
For example, Dear Doctor should have had The crew giving the Valakians genetic engineering info/tech, The Enterprise not having the time to come up with a cure themselves. Starfleet Command could even give permission. Later we find out that the Valakians have screwed it up and both races on the planet are now dead. Being responsible for wiping a whole planet and two races would definitely cause Starfleet to create the Prime Directive.
I'm sure they could've gotten a piece of wood off of the backlot to replace him, and no one would've noticed.
If he was unhappy, he could have quit at any time. On the other hand, he could have been fired at any time. Maybe it was just easier to cash the checks than to look for another job.
It might not have been that easy. Was his contract for the whole seven years, or was there a new contract or renewal with each season? And there may have been big fees for quitting early, making it more sensible to just keep the job.
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So instead a of telling a story a bit strained though (borderline) believable, they chose to replace it by a load of crap making Archer genocidal by inaction and Phlox the Dr. Strangelove of imaginary genetics.
The massive dying of people makes it fascist, IMO.
There are lots of instances of lots of people dying by the hands of others that have nothing to do with fascism.
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