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Rian Johnson trilogy canceled

Looking at the numbers, they made back the money they spent getting "Star Wars" from Lucas already. Rise of Skywalker will likely be were they either make profit, or brake even from all the other costs with making these films. But that also means that any Star Wars production after Rise of Skywalker is profit.
If we are only counting the box office profit: probably not.

TFA
https://deadline.com/2016/03/star-w...ovie-profit-2015-lucasfilm-disney-1201726142/
$780 Million
TLJ
https://deadline.com/2018/03/star-wars-the-last-jedi-box-office-movie-profits-1202351603/
$417 Million
RO
https://deadline.com/2017/04/rogue-one-box-office-profit-2016-1202054697/
$319 million
Solo
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/h...t-first-loss-disneys-star-wars-empire-1116927
-$50 million

They only got ~1.5 Billion from the four movies combined. And this is with the conservative estimates that Solo only lost 50 million. I have seen projections that it possibly lost them 200 million plus. Maybe tax write-offs?
 
I recall estimates of Disney's losses on 'John Carter' were somewhere between 200-300 million dollars...and they just ate the cost without even breaking stride.
Financially speaking, Star Wars as a whole is doing just fine. It may not be *as* profitable as some at the company might like, but then such is the corporate "we want all the money!" mentality. Business is business, and even if every movie tanks, they'd still make billions on merchandise sales alone.
 
Except Will Riker. He is going to live forever.

It will be purely because God doesn't want to have to deal with Riker sitting on chairs weirdly, hitching his leg on consoles to show off his balls and hitting on the Angels.

My point is: This incessant desire to see someone gone because you don’t like the direction of an entertainment franchise is pathetic. Perhaps people who are so obsessed should find a better hobby.

I remember when trekkies wanted Berman and Braga out because they were franchise ruiners. Cut to 20 years later where people are now looking back on how great it was when these two ran the franchise into the ground.

Whoever replaces Kennedy still wont do things the way the fandom menace want and therefore will be worse than Kennedy.
 
Lets not mention the millions upon millions from... Merchandising! Disney now owns all those rights as well.. And it's a merch behemoth!
 
I think I saw a story that said Iger actually said attendance at the parks was higher than expected this quarter.
 
There is a silliness to calling the Disney run a failure like some folks do, projecting their personal feelings onto the films. People are still showing up for these movies
Which is the only absolute measure of success.

My opinion of them is neither here nor there.
 
If we are only counting the box office profit: probably not.

TFA
https://deadline.com/2016/03/star-w...ovie-profit-2015-lucasfilm-disney-1201726142/
$780 Million
TLJ
https://deadline.com/2018/03/star-wars-the-last-jedi-box-office-movie-profits-1202351603/
$417 Million
RO
https://deadline.com/2017/04/rogue-one-box-office-profit-2016-1202054697/
$319 million
Solo
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/h...t-first-loss-disneys-star-wars-empire-1116927
-$50 million

They only got ~1.5 Billion from the four movies combined. And this is with the conservative estimates that Solo only lost 50 million. I have seen projections that it possibly lost them 200 million plus. Maybe tax write-offs?

You're equating box-office totals with production costs, but failing to factor in things like streaming, home video sales, merchandising and other ancillary sources. Say what you will about the quality of the films but Star Wars has been profitable for Disney for years.
 
If we are only counting the box office profit: probably not.

TFA
https://deadline.com/2016/03/star-w...ovie-profit-2015-lucasfilm-disney-1201726142/
$780 Million
TLJ
https://deadline.com/2018/03/star-wars-the-last-jedi-box-office-movie-profits-1202351603/
$417 Million
RO
https://deadline.com/2017/04/rogue-one-box-office-profit-2016-1202054697/
$319 million
Solo
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/h...t-first-loss-disneys-star-wars-empire-1116927
-$50 million

They only got ~1.5 Billion from the four movies combined. And this is with the conservative estimates that Solo only lost 50 million. I have seen projections that it possibly lost them 200 million plus. Maybe tax write-offs?

Why would we limit it to the box office though? The focus on the box office is something I've never understood, along with that on opening weekends and the domestic market. The franchise is more than one product and doesn't rest entirely (or even primarily) on cinema tickets to make money.

The amount of merchandising, DVD sales, streaming revenue, park tickets, licensing and assorted other money is very hard to really quantify but huge. How much money are Disney going to make over the coming years as a result of theme parks? I can't even begin to imagine, hell the sales of snacks at these places must stack up into the tens of millions each year.
 
Link.

This is Disney’s Fiscal Q3 earnings sheet (ending in June 2019). They’re doing just fine. The quarter that ended in September’s sheet is not yet available to the public but the call was held last week and it continues to do well.

2019 has been a year that has involved some huge expenditures for the company: opening Galaxy’s Edge, the acquisition of 20th Century Fox, the launch of Disney+. These things are not cheap. They’re playing the long game on these. As they should.

But at the end of the day, and has been suggested dozens of times: Disney is a business. Disney is making money. Star Wars is making money for Disney. There has been one data point in that equation that has not. At the end of the day, the only people that Disney owes anything to is the stockholders. They have a fiduciary responsibility to make decisions that make money.

They don’t give a damn as long as the general public is entertained and right now and keeps buying their stuff. And Disney rules the world right now. They don’t give a shit about die hard Star Wars fans. And it’s time for The Fandom Menace and all of its lackeys to realize this to be true. Dislike these movies all you want. But vote with your wallet. Not by whining on the internet. Because a fat lot of good that will do except make you look stupid.
 
except that.. the line graph is going downward. They blew their load by targeting a huge first film.. and ever since the trajectory has gone downward.. .. and the last film they made lost money.
When you start with 2 billion dollars worldwide down is realistically the only way you can go. TFA was the movie no one believed would ever happen. A continuation bringing back Luke, Han and Leia, it was a mega event that turned into regularly scheduled Star Wars movies.

Now I don't care for the MCU all that much.. but Iron man was not a billion dollar film.. they actually built to end game.. which made a shit ton of money.
That's a bad comparison, the MCU didn't start with Iron Man building up C tier characters by choice, Marvel simply didn't have the movie rights to their big characters. If they could have done Spider-Man or X-Men as their first movie they would have and if they could have build on one of the most successful movie series ever they would have done that too.



Five movies by the end of December, many of them quite successful financially
Cartoons, a live action TV show about to drop, two more coming. Comics, books.

If this is a "sorry" state, sign me up.
Right. If Star Trek was in a "sorry" state like that on the movie side we'd all be doing happy dances. Solo, the failure of the Star Wars franchise still made more than Star Trek 09 and Beyond and only a bit less than Into Darkness.
It's weird to see people think Star Wars is in trouble because only three out of four movies cleared the billion dollar threshold. I mean ... seriously?

About Kathleen Kennedy, she's doing a pretty good job just looking at the numbers, some people just want to dislike her. Sure, eventually she'll leave Lucasfilm but that doesn't mean the people "predicting" it were right or knew it. If I start every day saying "There'll be a rainbow today" I will be right eventually but that doesn't make me a rainbow psychic or weather expert.
 
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Solo, the failure of the Star Wars franchise still made more than Star Trek 09 and Beyond and only a bit less than Into Darkness.
You are not even being fair here.. even if it made more money at the box office than those films, it still LOST the studios money, whereas the Trek films did not

When you start with 2 billion dollars worldwide down is realistically the only way you can go. TFA was the movie no one believed would ever happen. A continuation bringing back Luke, Han and Leia, it was a mega event that turned into regularly scheduled Star Wars movies.
Yes but instead of building a narrative (especially if they knew they could make an unlimited number of films) to get uus invested, like showing what the FO was and showing it gaining power gradually .. it decided to go right to the boring "let's blow up the biggest superweapon imaginable" and after that there was nowhere else for the trilogy to go.
 
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