I haven't thought to see if Torres is wearing one in any of her scenes.
edit: She is wearing hers in the scene with Seven but it's just a flash. She's crossing her arms...it's a blink and you'll miss it moment.
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I haven't thought to see if Torres is wearing one in any of her scenes.
edit: She is wearing hers in the scene with Seven but it's just a flash. She's crossing her arms...it's a blink and you'll miss it moment.
Nice sense for detail.
Watched four more episodes tonight so apologies if this post is long. 
Drive
This episode was good up to a point. I liked that we met some new aliens who weren't trying to destroy Voyager, but I wish the plot had stayed with that aspect instead of setting it up for sabotage in the end. Also, to know that it was the first person we met who was planning the sabotage, not to mention the one that Harry had the hots for (God Harry is so dimwitted it's become comical at this point), it was a little predictable. However, I really enjoyed the interaction between Tom and B'Elanna. It felt like a realistic coming to terms in their relationship and the "Just Married" at the end was a very nice touch. I would have liked to see the wedding actually take place, but I guess we did see it in Course: Obvlion and I expect this was the same scene. Also, the cut in between Tom and B'Elanna and Harry and Irina was really cool. One last thing, is this new Delta Flyer more maneuverable? It seems like this episode and Imperfection they built a better ship. Well done for the resources they had, I guess.
Repression
Not really a fan of this episode. The whole Maquis/Voyager thing was dead and gone long ago and this episode felt like a rehash of the first half of Worst Case Scenario. We didn't even get to see Chakotay in command for more than 5 minutes. Another slight Beltran probably had against the series, I guess.
Critical Care
This was an episode I listed as one I was looking forward to because it is very timely. This early in season 7, Voyager did an episode about terminal illness and it's affects on people and now it's doing an episode about the health care system and how screwed up it is. We see the Doctor being stolen and brought to a hospital facility that looks very much like the outside of Space Mountain and he observes patients receiving preferential treatment over others. I really liked that The Doctor wasn't altered here like we've seen in the past, that he was actually a Doctor standing up for patients. The scene where Tebis dies was sad and hit hard, mainly because we see that all too much in our society. This episode did a great job showing this issue and making at relevant now as it was in 2001. One could even say the situation has gotten worse now, but that's a political thing I don't want to get in to. Still, this was a really good episode.
Inside Man
More gullible Voyager shenanigans was basically this episode in a nutshell. I love the episodes where we see Barclay and Troi, but this episode was kinda dumb and I'm not a big fan of the Farengi other than what was portrayed in DS9. Also, there were some things that had me shaking my head, like being unable to send a hologram through the data stream (What was the Doctor in Life Line?) or people in the alpha quadrant never seeing a borg turned human before (The second time Voyager ignored Locutus). I liked the scenes with Real Barclay and Troi, but other than that, this episode was pretty forgettable.
Drive
This episode was good up to a point. I liked that we met some new aliens who weren't trying to destroy Voyager, but I wish the plot had stayed with that aspect instead of setting it up for sabotage in the end. Also, to know that it was the first person we met who was planning the sabotage, not to mention the one that Harry had the hots for (God Harry is so dimwitted it's become comical at this point), it was a little predictable. However, I really enjoyed the interaction between Tom and B'Elanna. It felt like a realistic coming to terms in their relationship and the "Just Married" at the end was a very nice touch. I would have liked to see the wedding actually take place, but I guess we did see it in Course: Obvlion and I expect this was the same scene. Also, the cut in between Tom and B'Elanna and Harry and Irina was really cool. One last thing, is this new Delta Flyer more maneuverable? It seems like this episode and Imperfection they built a better ship. Well done for the resources they had, I guess.
Repression
Not really a fan of this episode. The whole Maquis/Voyager thing was dead and gone long ago and this episode felt like a rehash of the first half of Worst Case Scenario. We didn't even get to see Chakotay in command for more than 5 minutes. Another slight Beltran probably had against the series, I guess.
Critical Care
This was an episode I listed as one I was looking forward to because it is very timely. This early in season 7, Voyager did an episode about terminal illness and it's affects on people and now it's doing an episode about the health care system and how screwed up it is. We see the Doctor being stolen and brought to a hospital facility that looks very much like the outside of Space Mountain and he observes patients receiving preferential treatment over others. I really liked that The Doctor wasn't altered here like we've seen in the past, that he was actually a Doctor standing up for patients. The scene where Tebis dies was sad and hit hard, mainly because we see that all too much in our society. This episode did a great job showing this issue and making at relevant now as it was in 2001. One could even say the situation has gotten worse now, but that's a political thing I don't want to get in to. Still, this was a really good episode.
Inside Man
More gullible Voyager shenanigans was basically this episode in a nutshell. I love the episodes where we see Barclay and Troi, but this episode was kinda dumb and I'm not a big fan of the Farengi other than what was portrayed in DS9. Also, there were some things that had me shaking my head, like being unable to send a hologram through the data stream (What was the Doctor in Life Line?) or people in the alpha quadrant never seeing a borg turned human before (The second time Voyager ignored Locutus). I liked the scenes with Real Barclay and Troi, but other than that, this episode was pretty forgettable.
One more for tonight:
Body and Soul
This episode was fun. Jeri Ryan does a great Bob Picardo. There wasn't much going into it other than seeing Jeri Ryan be Bob Picardo, so I kept thinking about one of my favorite Farscape episodes and this scene
Body and Soul
This episode was fun. Jeri Ryan does a great Bob Picardo. There wasn't much going into it other than seeing Jeri Ryan be Bob Picardo, so I kept thinking about one of my favorite Farscape episodes and this scene
I like inside man, if only for Dwight Schultz acting.
In my head canon the wedding was completely different. They did the private Klingon vow thing with bloodletting. (Tom proposed in the old fashioned way so why not allow for something Klingon in the mix?)I know B'Elanna normally wasn't up for Klingon things but this was to make sure Tom was serious. 
They would allow Neelix to throw a party later. I thought the whole last name thing was silly. It is (was?) the 24th century. We didn't need a joke to remind us of the fact. Why automatically assume she would take his last name? She didn't for what it's worth.
Repression should have been a two-parter but it should have been about something else. The insurrection was dead in the Alpha Quadrant and by the time they returned it would be even more dead.
Critical care was ok although I wish they had expanded upon the 'Training' Doctor that got left behind.
I like Dwight Shultz's acting. That and seeing Sirtis again made Inside Man worth it although I agree...the plot was a little silly.
Body and Soul was another McNeil directed episode. The man has talent.
They would allow Neelix to throw a party later. I thought the whole last name thing was silly. It is (was?) the 24th century. We didn't need a joke to remind us of the fact. Why automatically assume she would take his last name? She didn't for what it's worth.Repression should have been a two-parter but it should have been about something else. The insurrection was dead in the Alpha Quadrant and by the time they returned it would be even more dead.
Critical care was ok although I wish they had expanded upon the 'Training' Doctor that got left behind.
I like Dwight Shultz's acting. That and seeing Sirtis again made Inside Man worth it although I agree...the plot was a little silly.
Body and Soul was another McNeil directed episode. The man has talent.
It seems you've reached the last part of your VOY marathon because you're watching it in massive quantities ...Watched four more episodes tonight so apologies if this post is long.
Drive
This episode was good up to a point. I liked that we met some new aliens who weren't trying to destroy Voyager, but I wish the plot had stayed with that aspect instead of setting it up for sabotage in the end. Also, to know that it was the first person we met who was planning the sabotage, not to mention the one that Harry had the hots for (God Harry is so dimwitted it's become comical at this point), it was a little predictable. However, I really enjoyed the interaction between Tom and B'Elanna. It felt like a realistic coming to terms in their relationship and the "Just Married" at the end was a very nice touch. I would have liked to see the wedding actually take place, but I guess we did see it in Course: Obvlion and I expect this was the same scene. Also, the cut in between Tom and B'Elanna and Harry and Irina was really cool. One last thing, is this new Delta Flyer more maneuverable? It seems like this episode and Imperfection they built a better ship. Well done for the resources they had, I guess.
Repression
Not really a fan of this episode. The whole Maquis/Voyager thing was dead and gone long ago and this episode felt like a rehash of the first half of Worst Case Scenario. We didn't even get to see Chakotay in command for more than 5 minutes. Another slight Beltran probably had against the series, I guess.
Critical Care
This was an episode I listed as one I was looking forward to because it is very timely. This early in season 7, Voyager did an episode about terminal illness and it's affects on people and now it's doing an episode about the health care system and how screwed up it is. We see the Doctor being stolen and brought to a hospital facility that looks very much like the outside of Space Mountain and he observes patients receiving preferential treatment over others. I really liked that The Doctor wasn't altered here like we've seen in the past, that he was actually a Doctor standing up for patients. The scene where Tebis dies was sad and hit hard, mainly because we see that all too much in our society. This episode did a great job showing this issue and making at relevant now as it was in 2001. One could even say the situation has gotten worse now, but that's a political thing I don't want to get in to. Still, this was a really good episode.
Inside Man
More gullible Voyager shenanigans was basically this episode in a nutshell. I love the episodes where we see Barclay and Troi, but this episode was kinda dumb and I'm not a big fan of the Farengi other than what was portrayed in DS9. Also, there were some things that had me shaking my head, like being unable to send a hologram through the data stream (What was the Doctor in Life Line?) or people in the alpha quadrant never seeing a borg turned human before (The second time Voyager ignored Locutus). I liked the scenes with Real Barclay and Troi, but other than that, this episode was pretty forgettable.
I like all the abovementioned episodes, including those two that you don't have a high opinion about. REPRESSION is a good Tuvok episode and INSIDE MAN is also an interesting one.
BODY AND SOUL will always be the funniest episode for me on Voyager, so that's a particular favourite of mine. But really, of all these the one I like most is DRIVE:
It seems you've reached the last part of your VOY marathon because you're watching it in massive quantities ...
Endgame is right around the corner. As the theme to Enterprise goes: It's been a long road, getting from there to here.
Nightingale
This episode feels like a victim of too little too late. Kim should have been a Leutinent by now but he's still stuck as the lowly ensign, being gullible in episodes like Inside Man and the writers seem to forget the kinds of things that Harry has done for Voyager, such as finding a new sense of confidence in Demon, saving the ship from an icy cold crash in Timeless, stuff like that. This episode finds him given the chance to captain a ship, and for some reason the writers seem to forget that he was able to captain ships before, like his negotiation skills in Warhead. This episode actually is pretty good but man I wish Kim was written better. We also get a B plot where Icheb has a crush on B'Elanna and I found it kind of cute. Overall, decent episode but what could have been with better character development
Flesh and Blood
I think of all the made for tv movies Voyager had, this one is up there as a favorite. We really did have some great work here, and I loved revisiting Janeway's decision to give the Hirogen holographic technology and the consequences of that act. What this episode does right is put The Doctor in a very interesting position, where he gets shut down by Chakotay and then Janeway later on because Janeway didn't trust the holograms. I can understand his plight, and is want to help his own people. Unfortunately where the episode almost loses me (But doesn't because it's a great episode) is when Iden has a 180 turn into megalomania in almost a blink of an eye. I would have really liked to see the hologram issue be taken all the way as if they were looking for a home and everything Iden said was true. It would have made the Doctor more sympathetic to the cause and we would end the episode kind of wondering what would happen to them. Still, this was a very interesting episode about rights and evolving beyond what you were capable of, holograph or flesh and blood.
This episode feels like a victim of too little too late. Kim should have been a Leutinent by now but he's still stuck as the lowly ensign, being gullible in episodes like Inside Man and the writers seem to forget the kinds of things that Harry has done for Voyager, such as finding a new sense of confidence in Demon, saving the ship from an icy cold crash in Timeless, stuff like that. This episode finds him given the chance to captain a ship, and for some reason the writers seem to forget that he was able to captain ships before, like his negotiation skills in Warhead. This episode actually is pretty good but man I wish Kim was written better. We also get a B plot where Icheb has a crush on B'Elanna and I found it kind of cute. Overall, decent episode but what could have been with better character development
Flesh and Blood
I think of all the made for tv movies Voyager had, this one is up there as a favorite. We really did have some great work here, and I loved revisiting Janeway's decision to give the Hirogen holographic technology and the consequences of that act. What this episode does right is put The Doctor in a very interesting position, where he gets shut down by Chakotay and then Janeway later on because Janeway didn't trust the holograms. I can understand his plight, and is want to help his own people. Unfortunately where the episode almost loses me (But doesn't because it's a great episode) is when Iden has a 180 turn into megalomania in almost a blink of an eye. I would have really liked to see the hologram issue be taken all the way as if they were looking for a home and everything Iden said was true. It would have made the Doctor more sympathetic to the cause and we would end the episode kind of wondering what would happen to them. Still, this was a very interesting episode about rights and evolving beyond what you were capable of, holograph or flesh and blood.
Just as I said, Kim is Voyager's permanent whipping boy.
I did have a tiny bit of problem with B'Elanna and Icheb going rock climbing and the comment that Tom doesn't like it. Wasn't he supposed to be one of the experts in Blood Fever?
The behind the scenes rumors are the Powers that Be just didn't like Wang (because of bad work ethics-coming in late, drunk etc) and he apparently complained a lot. I don't know...they were going to kill him off but were forced to keep him so they just used his a set decoration...but the thing is when they did use him, he did fine. IF that is true I hope the new writers don't get bogged down in silly politics like that just because they may not mesh with one actor. Be professional and don't create a character just to leave him or her as wallpaper.
The behind the scenes rumors are the Powers that Be just didn't like Wang (because of bad work ethics-coming in late, drunk etc) and he apparently complained a lot. I don't know...they were going to kill him off but were forced to keep him so they just used his a set decoration...but the thing is when they did use him, he did fine. IF that is true I hope the new writers don't get bogged down in silly politics like that just because they may not mesh with one actor. Be professional and don't create a character just to leave him or her as wallpaper.
Yes, that was incoherent. But it's mild compared to other things.
Unfortunately, that happens all the time, the reason for example that they only used Lazenby for one James Bond for only one movie, had nothing to do with acting or success of the movie, it was because he was an absolute dick. I think it's a lousy reason for getting rid of a good actor.
Shattered
I love this episode a lot. It's not a top 10 episode or anything, but I've always thought it was Shades of Grey done more appropriately. This episode plays like a bit of a clip show, only we're seeing clips we haven't seen before adding a little more backstory to the journey that we've been on for 6 and a half years. We see references to the beginning (And Relativity), Microcosm, Bride of Chaotica!, Basics, present day, and the future. What makes this episode work though is this is a Janeway/Chakotay story in the same vain of Resolutions where they were on that planet and Janeway kept seeing a Monkey. This relationship has really taken a step back the last few seasons and that is a flaw in Voyager I wasn't a fan of, but this episode brought it back full bore. We see Janeway questioning her decisions, and we see Chakotay, in a non-temporal prime directive kind of way, say that despite the negatives, it's been one hell of a ride and he doesn't regret it for a second.
Also, it was great to see Seska back again. On a facebook group I post in and even a thread here, I've been trying to defend the Kazon/Seska arc, and the reason why I love that arc is because of Seska. I would have liked to see Cullah back again though. As a matter of fact, if there was ever an episode to bring back Jennifer Lien, this one was it. You don't have to bring her back and make Kes a monster like fury. You can bring her back and have her with the Doctor, as her character always was. It would be a perfect fit and not feel forced.
I also really loved the ending. I don't know if it's just me noticing, but Janeway seems to have gotten a playful arrogance to her this season. It's actually quite fun, but it was nice here, especially the comment about keeping the whiskey in the cargo bay.
Lineage
This was probably the episode I was looking forward to the most in revisiting Season 7. I remembered how great it was when I saw it a few times ago, but being a huge fan of Orphan Black and how they talk about genetic engineering and cloning, I gained a much bigger appreciation for this episode. Also, I'm not the biggest shipper you'll find. In fact, there's only one relationship in all of Sci Fi that I really really loved, and that was John Chrichton, and Officer Aeryn Sun from Farscape. The reason why was because the relationship felt organic and didn't detract from the development of the individual characters. I think Lineage was the episode that really put the Tom and B'Elanna relationship over the edge, and while it's not on the level of John and Aeryn, it's right below that. I don't know how much this episode gets talked about here, but every series has their tear jerker episode: Star Trek has City on the Edge of Forever. TNG has Inner Light. DS9 has The Visitor. Enterprise has maybe Twilight. What episode did Voyager have that I would put on that level? I always thought maybe Living Witness, but that really is an alternate reality show. Lineage I think is a much better candidate to put up there. This was Voyager's answer to Barge of the Dead in that while we learned a lot about B'elanna's Mom in that episode, we learn a lot about her Father in this episode. The flashback scenes worked incredibly well and this was Voyager digging deep into two great and well written characters and letting Dawson, McNeil, and Picardo shine. I said Barge of the Dead or Day of Honor was my favorite B'Elanna episode. I think I have to retract that because Lineage is a really powerful show.
Then we get to the ending, where Torres breaks down and we see the flashbacks cresendoing to the climax. This was powerful powerful stuff. It was also realistic stuff, based on what we know from Torres in the past. When she asks The Doctor to be the baby's godfather and they have that moment looking at her holographic image again, I nearly teared up. Like I said, I don't know how others see this episode in the same light as the other powerful trek offerings, but Lineage is a really powerful and moving episode. So far, it's probably my favorite episode of Season 7, with Shattered not that far behind.
I love this episode a lot. It's not a top 10 episode or anything, but I've always thought it was Shades of Grey done more appropriately. This episode plays like a bit of a clip show, only we're seeing clips we haven't seen before adding a little more backstory to the journey that we've been on for 6 and a half years. We see references to the beginning (And Relativity), Microcosm, Bride of Chaotica!, Basics, present day, and the future. What makes this episode work though is this is a Janeway/Chakotay story in the same vain of Resolutions where they were on that planet and Janeway kept seeing a Monkey. This relationship has really taken a step back the last few seasons and that is a flaw in Voyager I wasn't a fan of, but this episode brought it back full bore. We see Janeway questioning her decisions, and we see Chakotay, in a non-temporal prime directive kind of way, say that despite the negatives, it's been one hell of a ride and he doesn't regret it for a second.
Also, it was great to see Seska back again. On a facebook group I post in and even a thread here, I've been trying to defend the Kazon/Seska arc, and the reason why I love that arc is because of Seska. I would have liked to see Cullah back again though. As a matter of fact, if there was ever an episode to bring back Jennifer Lien, this one was it. You don't have to bring her back and make Kes a monster like fury. You can bring her back and have her with the Doctor, as her character always was. It would be a perfect fit and not feel forced.
I also really loved the ending. I don't know if it's just me noticing, but Janeway seems to have gotten a playful arrogance to her this season. It's actually quite fun, but it was nice here, especially the comment about keeping the whiskey in the cargo bay.
Lineage
This was probably the episode I was looking forward to the most in revisiting Season 7. I remembered how great it was when I saw it a few times ago, but being a huge fan of Orphan Black and how they talk about genetic engineering and cloning, I gained a much bigger appreciation for this episode. Also, I'm not the biggest shipper you'll find. In fact, there's only one relationship in all of Sci Fi that I really really loved, and that was John Chrichton, and Officer Aeryn Sun from Farscape. The reason why was because the relationship felt organic and didn't detract from the development of the individual characters. I think Lineage was the episode that really put the Tom and B'Elanna relationship over the edge, and while it's not on the level of John and Aeryn, it's right below that. I don't know how much this episode gets talked about here, but every series has their tear jerker episode: Star Trek has City on the Edge of Forever. TNG has Inner Light. DS9 has The Visitor. Enterprise has maybe Twilight. What episode did Voyager have that I would put on that level? I always thought maybe Living Witness, but that really is an alternate reality show. Lineage I think is a much better candidate to put up there. This was Voyager's answer to Barge of the Dead in that while we learned a lot about B'elanna's Mom in that episode, we learn a lot about her Father in this episode. The flashback scenes worked incredibly well and this was Voyager digging deep into two great and well written characters and letting Dawson, McNeil, and Picardo shine. I said Barge of the Dead or Day of Honor was my favorite B'Elanna episode. I think I have to retract that because Lineage is a really powerful show.
Then we get to the ending, where Torres breaks down and we see the flashbacks cresendoing to the climax. This was powerful powerful stuff. It was also realistic stuff, based on what we know from Torres in the past. When she asks The Doctor to be the baby's godfather and they have that moment looking at her holographic image again, I nearly teared up. Like I said, I don't know how others see this episode in the same light as the other powerful trek offerings, but Lineage is a really powerful and moving episode. So far, it's probably my favorite episode of Season 7, with Shattered not that far behind.
This isn't the only episode in which Kes could (should) have been brought back, I remember missing her in LATENT IMAGE as well.Shattered
I love this episode a lot. It's not a top 10 episode or anything, but I've always thought it was Shades of Grey done more appropriately. This episode plays like a bit of a clip show, only we're seeing clips we haven't seen before adding a little more backstory to the journey that we've been on for 6 and a half years. We see references to the beginning (And Relativity), Microcosm, Bride of Chaotica!, Basics, present day, and the future. What makes this episode work though is this is a Janeway/Chakotay story in the same vain of Resolutions where they were on that planet and Janeway kept seeing a Monkey. This relationship has really taken a step back the last few seasons and that is a flaw in Voyager I wasn't a fan of, but this episode brought it back full bore. We see Janeway questioning her decisions, and we see Chakotay, in a non-temporal prime directive kind of way, say that despite the negatives, it's been one hell of a ride and he doesn't regret it for a second.
Also, it was great to see Seska back again. On a facebook group I post in and even a thread here, I've been trying to defend the Kazon/Seska arc, and the reason why I love that arc is because of Seska. I would have liked to see Cullah back again though. As a matter of fact, if there was ever an episode to bring back Jennifer Lien, this one was it. You don't have to bring her back and make Kes a monster like fury. You can bring her back and have her with the Doctor, as her character always was. It would be a perfect fit and not feel forced.
I also really loved the ending. I don't know if it's just me noticing, but Janeway seems to have gotten a playful arrogance to her this season. It's actually quite fun, but it was nice here, especially the comment about keeping the whiskey in the cargo bay.
Having said that, now that I'm watching the show for the 35th time, I noticed that quite often she was missing in scnenes with the Doctor throughout the first three seasons. In Seasons 4-7, I sometimes notice her absence but then I'm suddenly reminded how she is often not there in the early seasons.
Nevertheless her absence here is more conspicuous than in other episodes.
I've never thought of this episode as being in the same vein as RESOLUTIONS but now that you've mentioned it, I remember a wallpaper somewhere on the Internet (naturally not one of my own wallpapers) which showed one of the last scenes from this episode when Janeway and Chakotay were shaking hands and the caption on it said "the true meaning of peace". This was naturally a reference to the Angry Warrior legend in RESOLUTIONS and I felt it was so true.
It goes without saying that this episode is a huge favourite of mine - but then which isn't (except FURY)? It's also interesting that you refer to this story as a tear jerker on Voyager - I find that Voyager has a lot of those (REAL LIFE for example).
In any case both RDM and RD are supposed to have shed tears while this episode was shot so this must have been very emotional for the actors, too. And who can blame them? For me, they are the best couple in sci-fi - in anything really (but then I find FARSCAPE boring, sorry) - and this one is really the best of the best as far as their relationship goes. And although I've only read the relaunch books until THE ETERNAL TIDE, which, I think the 8th or the 9th book in the series, I quite liked the way Kirsten Beyer was further developing their relationship (lots of Kuvah'magh, xD). It's a pity she did everything else pretty un-Voyager style in those books (if you can say so in English).
On the side may I add that now that I'm watching DS9 for the third time, it was yesterday that I had come to THE VISITOR and even though I knew what it would be about, I couldn't help welling up.
Here are a few LINEAGE wallpapers:
There's only one more episode left for which I have made wallpapers: HUMAN ERROR.
The problem with being so close to the end of the series is right now I am on a Voyager binge. Also, it's late at night and instead of writing about these episodes I should probably go to bed, but I don't want to forget anything, so these next three episodes will be pretty short.
Repentance
I'm surprised at how much I really liked this episode. I'm not a fan of the borg nanoprobes being a magical cure all like Voyager has a tendency to do, but the character development we get from Iko was really interesting. This was better commentary on the Death Penalty than an episode like Justice was, but I also saw a lot of the racial storyline (Which is so prevalent in our society today with BLM) that was the B plot. I also really liked the ending with Seven and Janeway telling her that she was punished enough by losing 20 years of her life. Like I said, this episode rather surprised me in a good way.
Prophecy
The problem with binging is watching two episodes close together dealing with the same subject, one of them is a really powerful episode I would rank with any of Trek's best offerings, and the other is Prophecy, a rather dumb and preposturous episode that was only an excuse to bring more Klingons onto the show. I'm already tired of Klingon honor in TNG and somewhat DS9, I didn't need it to creep up into Voyager. I feel like I've seen these type of episodes before, and they were done a lot better than Prophecy.
The Void
Or as I like to call it, Night Part 2. It's interesting that episode wasn't brought up, maybe with Neelix saying "Not again" when they first entered the Void. I did like the idea of Janeway trying to forge a little federation trying to get out of it though, even though I still think her ideals are a little too optimistic for my tastes. This is one of those things where they should have taken a little example from the Equinox crew (Where are they again?). Maybe not to the extremes but this episode felt a little repetitive to episodes like Alliences where I can understand Janeway trying to stick to federation principles. Here I'm not sure because she's spent the last 6 and a half years of her life in the Delta Quadrant. Also, they've been stuck at 30,000 light years closer to home for what feels like a full season. You'd think the Pathfinder project would have sent them upgrades to go faster. Either that or find a wormhole or something.
Repentance
I'm surprised at how much I really liked this episode. I'm not a fan of the borg nanoprobes being a magical cure all like Voyager has a tendency to do, but the character development we get from Iko was really interesting. This was better commentary on the Death Penalty than an episode like Justice was, but I also saw a lot of the racial storyline (Which is so prevalent in our society today with BLM) that was the B plot. I also really liked the ending with Seven and Janeway telling her that she was punished enough by losing 20 years of her life. Like I said, this episode rather surprised me in a good way.
Prophecy
The problem with binging is watching two episodes close together dealing with the same subject, one of them is a really powerful episode I would rank with any of Trek's best offerings, and the other is Prophecy, a rather dumb and preposturous episode that was only an excuse to bring more Klingons onto the show. I'm already tired of Klingon honor in TNG and somewhat DS9, I didn't need it to creep up into Voyager. I feel like I've seen these type of episodes before, and they were done a lot better than Prophecy.
The Void
Or as I like to call it, Night Part 2. It's interesting that episode wasn't brought up, maybe with Neelix saying "Not again" when they first entered the Void. I did like the idea of Janeway trying to forge a little federation trying to get out of it though, even though I still think her ideals are a little too optimistic for my tastes. This is one of those things where they should have taken a little example from the Equinox crew (Where are they again?). Maybe not to the extremes but this episode felt a little repetitive to episodes like Alliences where I can understand Janeway trying to stick to federation principles. Here I'm not sure because she's spent the last 6 and a half years of her life in the Delta Quadrant. Also, they've been stuck at 30,000 light years closer to home for what feels like a full season. You'd think the Pathfinder project would have sent them upgrades to go faster. Either that or find a wormhole or something.
The nanoprobes brought Neelix back from the dead. They can do anything.
Like Khan's blood!
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(Apologies for hijacking the thread, but I didn't think it was worth starting a new one for my brief impressions)
First time posting here in maybe over a decade, but I'm watching the show again for the first time since it aired and I'm starting to notice all the problems that I had with the show when I was watching it live.
The biggest problem is that these characters have no consistent arc (at least the ones that have an arc, those like Chakotay and Kim have no character arc whatosever and are basically ciphers or walking tropes).
For me this reared its ugly head in season 4 - Janeway makes the deal with the Borg to destroy Species 8472 for safe passage through their space. Then in Hunters, she has the chance to do the same with the Hirogen but refuses to do so and instead wants to somehow save the 8472 that they captured. What???
Of course, in the 2 parter a bit later, the resolution is violating the prime directive by giving the Hirogen holographic technology, which leads to the whole hologram rebellion thing later on in the next season.
Voyager is a Starfleet ship except when the writers decide it's not a Starfleet ship, and this authorial schizophrenia is what makes it so hard to trust any decision that Janeway might make. As I approach Endgame, I don't even want to contemplate Admiral Janeway and the way she goes about d
It would make sense if the new Flyer was better than the first one. When they were building the first one they were very rushed, racing against the Malon to retrieve their probe.Watched four more episodes tonight so apologies if this post is long.
Drive
This episode was good up to a point. I liked that we met some new aliens who weren't trying to destroy Voyager, but I wish the plot had stayed with that aspect instead of setting it up for sabotage in the end. Also, to know that it was the first person we met who was planning the sabotage, not to mention the one that Harry had the hots for (God Harry is so dimwitted it's become comical at this point), it was a little predictable. However, I really enjoyed the interaction between Tom and B'Elanna. It felt like a realistic coming to terms in their relationship and the "Just Married" at the end was a very nice touch. I would have liked to see the wedding actually take place, but I guess we did see it in Course: Obvlion and I expect this was the same scene. Also, the cut in between Tom and B'Elanna and Harry and Irina was really cool. One last thing, is this new Delta Flyer more maneuverable? It seems like this episode and Imperfection they built a better ship. Well done for the resources they had, I guess.
Anyone else notice that Roxann Dawson's voice seems off in the mess hall scene with Neelix? I wonder if she was sick.
Lineage is a great episode. One of my favorites. Everything is coming to a head for B'Elanna. It's a nice resolution to her arc and in some ways, it was a Tom and B'Elanna episode.
I wish the writers would have gone to that much depth and taken that much time with Tom and his journey by dealing with everything that has happened to him in his past but I suppose he is a 'move on' kind of person. Oh well.
I enjoy Shattered. The right way to do a 'clip' show. This episode is revisited in Beyer's book "A Pocket full of Lies'. I read that book in one day!
Prophecy. Tom has to be taught how to fight like a Klingon? The guy who used to use the Klingon Martial Arts program for recreation? The father of the Kuvmagh came from a noble house...wouldn't coming from a long line of Starfleet officers and having a father as an Admiral count as noble?
The original story was about Klingons in the DQ but it was supposed to happen early in the series. It was also supposed to be a two-parter. The two groups would met up, spend time together...B'Elanna would fall in love with the Klingon engineer but the episode would end by B'Elanna having to choose whether or not to shoot the engineer or Chakotay or Tom (the writer's hadn't decided on which one at that point). I have no idea how the issue was to be resolved. Over the years it got pushed back because they had the Klingons on DS9, then they had the Ferengi in Season 2 and didn't want too many Alpha Quadrant aliens in the DQ...then it became canon that Tom and B'Elanna were together and she wasn't going to fall in love with a Klingon engineer...what we were left with was Voyager meeting Klingons in the Delta Quadrant being all that was left of the original story.
Repentance was ok...and The Void was Night part Two...with more void dwelling aliens but it did seem to swing Janeway back around to being a 'real' Starfleet Captain again making rational logical decisions.
I wish the writers would have gone to that much depth and taken that much time with Tom and his journey by dealing with everything that has happened to him in his past but I suppose he is a 'move on' kind of person. Oh well.
I enjoy Shattered. The right way to do a 'clip' show.
This episode is revisited in Beyer's book "A Pocket full of Lies'. I read that book in one day!Prophecy. Tom has to be taught how to fight like a Klingon? The guy who used to use the Klingon Martial Arts program for recreation? The father of the Kuvmagh came from a noble house...wouldn't coming from a long line of Starfleet officers and having a father as an Admiral count as noble?
The original story was about Klingons in the DQ but it was supposed to happen early in the series. It was also supposed to be a two-parter. The two groups would met up, spend time together...B'Elanna would fall in love with the Klingon engineer but the episode would end by B'Elanna having to choose whether or not to shoot the engineer or Chakotay or Tom (the writer's hadn't decided on which one at that point). I have no idea how the issue was to be resolved. Over the years it got pushed back because they had the Klingons on DS9, then they had the Ferengi in Season 2 and didn't want too many Alpha Quadrant aliens in the DQ...then it became canon that Tom and B'Elanna were together and she wasn't going to fall in love with a Klingon engineer...what we were left with was Voyager meeting Klingons in the Delta Quadrant being all that was left of the original story.
Repentance was ok...and The Void was Night part Two...with more void dwelling aliens but it did seem to swing Janeway back around to being a 'real' Starfleet Captain again making rational logical decisions.
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