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Rewatching the Prequels. Clone Wars: why didn't the Jedi just box Dooku in the Arena?

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They all knew he was there...standing on the balcony, they thought he was the Sith Lord at the time. So why didn't Yoda order the Clones to surround the Arena and Keep Dooku from escaping to the Hanger? Even after picking up the Arena survivors, Yoda even says they need to keep Dooku from escaping as they are flying off to some battle a few minutes away, why didn't a Jedi say "Uh, Dooku's back in the Arena we just left..."
 
Surrounding the arena would be pretty pointless. Geonosian structures are like icebergs, their tunnels go for miles underground. Indeed, doing so would leave those forces surrounded and penned in by the massive droid army outside, making it that much easier for Dooku to slip away.
As for preventing his escape: the first thing they do is turn and engage every starship in the landing field attempting to lift off. It's not like they were just shooting things randomly, they were establishing air superiority while securing a landing zone for the transports, which offloaded the heavy armor and artillery to engage the aforementioned droid army.
 
He eventually managed to slip out on a small craft, after successfully managing to escape a duel involving three Jedi, and only barely got away from the advancing Clones, who arrived a few moments too late with Senator Amidala.
 
I think only the Jedi strike team at the beginning had a chance to kill Dooku.
If Mace had more Jedi with him when he had his lightsaber at Dooku's troat the war would be over before it started.
 
Also I don't think they knew he was a Sith yet. Later on, sure, but not at the start of the conflict.
 
After his fight with Yoda they were probably in little doubt as throughout the Clone Wars they repeatedly referred to both he and Ventresss as Sith. But yeah, it wasn't until relatively late on that they connected Dooku with the name Darth Tyranus and knew for an absolute fact.
 
My biggest question in this movie has always been... why did Dooku tell Kenobi the TRUTH? And what would have happened if Obi Wan had actually agreed to team up with Dooku to stop the Sith Lord? Did the former great Jedi truly have one last chance for redemption; was it an honest, one last final olive branch? Or was it all part of the manipulation? Dooku was a pawn from day one. I've always liked the thought that he was a bit more grey then we saw in the end.
 
My biggest question in this movie has always been... why did Dooku tell Kenobi the TRUTH? And what would have happened if Obi Wan had actually agreed to team up with Dooku to stop the Sith Lord? Did the former great Jedi truly have one last chance for redemption; was it an honest, one last final olive branch? Or was it all part of the manipulation? Dooku was a pawn from day one. I've always liked the thought that he was a bit more grey then we saw in the end.

The best place to plant a lie is inside a truth.
That said, Dooku didn't say anything that the Nemoidians they arrested at the end of TPM didn't know and probably already spilled. Indeed, the fact that in TCW the Jedi know the name "Darth Maul" is proof enough that at least one of them talked. So he didn't really give anything away that that council didn't already know or at least suspect.

As for what he would have done had Obi Wan bitten: he's a Sith.
The whole point of that conversation was to feel him out, get a sense of what he knows and how much of Qui-Gon's distrust of the council had passed on to his apprentice. I think if he could have leveraged that against Kenobi, he would have tried to recruit him as an ally or even an apprentice.
Long term plan: they kill Sidious and Dooku takes his place once the Separatists win the Clone Wars, wipe out the Jedi and bring the defeated Republic worlds under his new Empire.

Of course it was never going to play out that way since Kenobi would never go along with it and Sidious is a much better strategist that Dooku could ever hope to be. I do however believe that the Clone Wars were set-up in such a way that either side could have won. Sidious is smart enough to know he can't control every eventuality, every battle and every unexpected turn. He could however stack the deck so no matter what happens, he gets the winning hand.
 
From what I recall Dooku's intensions for the Republic could be considered noble. He was going to replace the ineffectual Senate with a more efficient ruling council of some sort in an effort to remove the corruption. Turn the Jedi's way of thinking around so that they would get involved in politics and if not rule, directly advise the new government as a way to keep the galaxy safe and orderly. Palpatine of course corrupted Dooku more and more over the years, but Dooku's intentions were noble. Also Dooku's idea of how the war would end was not what Palpatine had in mind, as he betrayed Dooku near the end in favor of his actual next apprentice.....Anakin Skywalker.

Even at that late a date, Dooku wanted to turn Obi-wan to his side. Believing Kenobi to be a far better match than the hot headed Skywalker.
 
^We really don't have much of a baseline of Dooku's character prior to becoming a Sith Lord to make any meaningful comparison, let alone guess at what his intentions were before meeting Palpatine. We don't even know the circumstances of that meeting.

Personally, I think it would cheapen Dooku's character to say put all the blame on Sidious. He's a sneaky manipulative bastard, but there's only so much influence he can have, especially on a Jedi Master. Indeed, neither Krell nor Barris seemed to need any direct influence from Sidious to turn them against the order. They're all as responsible for their own actions as Anakin was.

We do know that Dooku comes from nobility and the impression I'm left with is that he was taken by the Jedi when he was just old enough to remember it. Perhaps enough that it instilled in him a deeply rooted sense of privilege and an inclination toward authoritarianism. That would potentially lead to a distaste for the Senate's ineffectual leadership and the High Council's passivity in a clearly stagnating galaxy.

That said, it's hard to credit the notion that Dooku was ever truly concerned with the well being of others. Most of his interactions make it clear he has little to no respect for anyone besides himself and his Master and even that is only because of Sidious's considerable power. He thinks he has the right to rule, that he knows better simply because of who he is. An arrogant delusion suffered by all forms of aristocrats.

Given that he appears to have been a stop-gap after Sidious unexpectedly lost Maul, I think it's a fair guess that Dooku had already left the order and was well on his way down the dark path when Palpatine made him his apprentice.
There may be reason to think Palapatine was already using him as an asset prior to this, but that only supports this proposition as it means he was already close at hand, so to speak.
 
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