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Revisiting Space: 1999...

You wrote "Kubrick naver made a low budget TV series". Space 1999 was not low budget

It wasn't low budget for a tv series, but compared to a big screen movie, it was low budget. The point is that Kubrick never had to be contented with so low a budget.
 
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It wasn't low budget for a tv series, but compared to a big screen movie, it was low budget. The point is that Kubrick never had to be contented with so low a budget.
I wasn't talking about budget ;). My point is they tried to make an artistic product without having the skills. They tried to imitate Kubrick and the end result was somewhat disappointing.
 
I wasn't talking about budget ;). My point is they tried to make an artistic product without having the skills. They tried to imitate Kubrick and the end result was somewhat disappointing.

I don't think they tried to imitate Kubrick. KubricK only made one sci.fi movie, just as he made pretty much one movie of each sort. One about war in Vietnam, one about war in Napoleon time, one about brainwashing and dehumanization, one about first world war, one about nuclear bombs, one about Spartacus. You see? This movie represent only one facet among many.
 
I don't think they tried to imitate Kubrick. KubricK only made one sci.fi movie, just as he made pretty much one movie of each sort. One about war in Vietnam, one about war in Napoleon time, one about brainwashing and dehumanization, one about first world war, one about nuclear bombs, one about Spartacus. You see? This movie represent only one facet among many.

And even when he had a big budget and big name stars he wasn't above turning out a stinker (eyes wide shut anyone?).
 
Space: 1999 was obviously riffing on Kubrick in many ways. Jesus, just for starters, the scene aboard the Eagle taking Koenig up to the space station in "Breakaway" is a straight-up lift from 2001. :lol:
 
Space: 1999 was obviously riffing on Kubrick in many ways. Jesus, just for starters, the scene aboard the Eagle taking Koenig up to the space station in "Breakaway" is a straight-up lift from 2001. :lol:

To me that's what is normally called a tribute. They have those in all major movies.
 
To me that's what is normally called a tribute. They have those in all major movies.
That's fine. I'm not saying it's necessarily a bad thing. I do see that scene as a tribute. But I also interpret that tribute scene as an open acknowledgement of just how heavily influenced by Kubrick that Space: 1999 was. I personally don't think that Space: 1999 is only simply derivative of 2001, but it's not unreasonable to view the situation as @Skipper did.

My point is they tried to make an artistic product without having the skills. They tried to imitate Kubrick and the end result was somewhat disappointing.

By the way, the success and legacy of 2001 owe themselves in no small part to Clarke. The filmmaking was Kubrick's, and it's a mistake to underestimate Kubrick's skill and the influence that he's had on film generally. But the story was due to both men, using Clarke's pre-existing material as the jumping-off point, mainly "The Sentinel" but also with some helpings of the theme of Childhood's End, I'd say.
 
Re-reading the Destination Moonbase Alpha book last night, I spotted that when Freiberger was hired in response to ITC New York's demand for an American producer, Abe Mandell said "Why is he available now?"
To which the response has to be "We have to hire from the people available now!" But equally, in October, anyone good was full time in a series. FF wasn't.
 
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By the way, the success and legacy of 2001 owe themselves in no small part to Clarke. The filmmaking was Kubrick's, and it's a mistake to underestimate Kubrick's skill and the influence that he's had on film generally. But the story was due to both men, using Clarke's pre-existing material as the jumping-off point, mainly "The Sentinel" but also with some helpings of the theme of Childhood's End, I'd say.

To measure the importance of Kubrick in the making of the film you only have to compare it to its sequel (2010) made WITHOUT Kubrick's directing. It sucks.
 
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