Retro Review: Dreadnought
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I normally don't care for B'Elanna's episodes but this one is OK, perhaps because there is more going on than her never ending struggle to find self acceptance. The concept of a weapon so powerful with such a level of adaption is frighting. Dawson does a good job acting against herself. I read an article where she apparently didn't care for this episode or Prototype which was basically her acting against a machine or herself. She wanted live people! It speaks to her level of professionalism that she did such a good job despite her reservations.
I agree with the reviewer about the Paris/Torres/Kim trio. The dynamic is brought back in the novels and a lot of fanfiction writers insist on keeping the 'gang' together. They could have done so much more with it. The scene with Paris highlights their chemistry.
This is one I don't skip.
I agree with the reviewer about the Paris/Torres/Kim trio. The dynamic is brought back in the novels and a lot of fanfiction writers insist on keeping the 'gang' together. They could have done so much more with it. The scene with Paris highlights their chemistry.
This is one I don't skip.
As i mentioned in the Prototype review, regarding the (very) similar plots of that episode, this one and Warhead, I much prefer Warhead. After that, I prefer Prototype. So this one gets the bronze medal.
It's not terrible and there's some good stuff in it but we've essentially seen this episode just a few episodes earlier (but done better). That being said, it has its charms and the B stories (especially nods to the Seska arc) are valuable in their slow but sure attempt to add some meat to the bones of the spy plot.
It's odd that they put two such similar episodes so close together rather than trying to obscure the regurgitated plots by spreading them out a little. Not that it ultimately matters.
For all the good stuff to be found here, I would still class the episode as mostly forgettable. Being fairly early in season two, it does continue to provide some slight character building for certain members but not much. I don't fast forward through it but I don't adore it either.
It's not terrible and there's some good stuff in it but we've essentially seen this episode just a few episodes earlier (but done better). That being said, it has its charms and the B stories (especially nods to the Seska arc) are valuable in their slow but sure attempt to add some meat to the bones of the spy plot.
It's odd that they put two such similar episodes so close together rather than trying to obscure the regurgitated plots by spreading them out a little. Not that it ultimately matters.
For all the good stuff to be found here, I would still class the episode as mostly forgettable. Being fairly early in season two, it does continue to provide some slight character building for certain members but not much. I don't fast forward through it but I don't adore it either.
I liked the ep and always rematch it when I'm near season two. My only gripe with the episode is the alien talking of Voyager's reputation. I find it hard to believe a ship travelling at warp 9 most of the time has a reputation ahead of where it's travelling to, even with the Kazon being dicks.
I liked the characterizations and character development in this episode. Torres, Paris, and Chakotay all had their moments. Chak would have been within his rights to throw Torres under the bus, and he didn't. He told Janeway the missile was his doing, and we didn't find out until later that B'Elanna had done it without his permission and against his orders. Her conversation with Paris is the first real hint of her deeper feelings for both him and Chakotay.
I see the point about regurgitated plotlines, but the show's premise was inherently limiting. They're going in a more or less straight line, trying to get home. They can accidentally piss off local aliens, intentionally piss off local aliens, almost get killed by bizarre anomalies, find a way home that doesn't pan out, and that's pretty much it.
I see the point about regurgitated plotlines, but the show's premise was inherently limiting. They're going in a more or less straight line, trying to get home. They can accidentally piss off local aliens, intentionally piss off local aliens, almost get killed by bizarre anomalies, find a way home that doesn't pan out, and that's pretty much it.
Sorry to post again, but I just thought of something else. Like the reviewer, I loved the brief-but-emotionally-loaded Janeway/Chakotay scene on the bridge, when he doesn't want to let her go down with the ship. But, upon further consideration, why was that necessary? Why couldn't someone have taken one of their shuttles and used its transporter to beam her out at the last second? You know, like Chakotay's kamikaze run at the Kazon ship in Caretaker? There's no guarantee of it working, but you'd think they'd at least have attempted to save her life.
For that matter, wouldn't the shuttles have been worth saving, regardless of the Captain's fate? Surely the newly-shipless crew would get more use out of them than out of a bunch of escape pods. Seems like no one thought of that.
I love this board, and I'm glad I found it, but sometimes I hate the way it makes me think of previously-unnoticed plot holes.
For that matter, wouldn't the shuttles have been worth saving, regardless of the Captain's fate? Surely the newly-shipless crew would get more use out of them than out of a bunch of escape pods. Seems like no one thought of that.
I love this board, and I'm glad I found it, but sometimes I hate the way it makes me think of previously-unnoticed plot holes.
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