Retro Look Good Enough for Another Sci Fi Remake

[ST-One]

The changes in TMP were because Captain Kirk, AKA William Shatner got 11 years older so that had to be reflected in the redesign. Now do you GET IT ?

No. This doesn't make any sense.

The Star Trek universe itself aged and got older and therefore changed.

Without any trace of the original designs?
Or could it be that the original designs were thought of as not exactly very good...?

 

[trevanian]

Without any trace of the original designs?
Or could it be that the original designs were thought of as not exactly very good...?

Are you not going to address any real-world aspects for this, because you gotta know that is where the answers lie?

They hired an aerospace designer during phase ii and told her to fill up a bubble that would be the bridge. They told her and her collaborators to make as much of it practical as possible, so the controls did something. To help fill up space and because they "looked pretty," she put in space-wasting oval monitors everywhere. BTW, designer and the art director are working WITHOUT A BUDGET.

When a feature director comes in, he basically trashes everything he can, retaining only the stuff that is way too expensive to throw out. Whatever credibility the aerospace designer brought and the art director brought is gone, because director has his own concerns and visual agenda, AGAIN, having NOTHING to do with TOS.

NEW art director decides to make things look futuristic by having light come from below to some degree (not that that helps you read stuff.) New FX team tries to art direct live action stuff because it has been so badly designed. New FX team gets fired. Now you're all running after a release date and they'll take anything to get the show done, resulting in a seriously weird mix of design and execution.

The MJ design is in a lot of cases pretty solid. And visually of interest. For TMP you've got a lot of cooks reheating this stuff, and in some instances building a new microwave before they start reheating it, and they forgot to plug the microwave in half the time. It's a mess.

 

[number6]

Yes things would have been different but is that necessarily a bad thing ? Would a Bonanza convention have had happened after three seasons, come on.

I would love to have seen more of the original show. I grew up watching that show. Facts are facts: Star Trek getting cancelled prematurely and being discovered in syndicated reruns is what made Star Trek the Cult Favorite that it is. If it ran a fourth season the quality would have suffered.The drop in quality was apparent by mid-season2. They were lucky to get a second and third season. Star Trek ended at the right time. And we have four spinoff series, an animated series and 11 movies that prove that point.

No 6, are you gonna let me go to sleep tonight ? It's late where I am. Those points certainly don't prove anything to me.

My points are based on factual information culled from popular viewing trends at the time, the budget issues that TOS had to deal with and what we know from what has been said by people who worked on the show.

Your points are based entirely on wishful thinking.

Star Trek getting cancelled was the best thing that could happen for Star Trek. It made fans hungry for something new from this universe. That's why TMP succeeded. That's why there were more films and series. The fascination of this show that only ran for 79 episodes and then cancelled captured the minds of people who just saw the first man walk on the moon, were weary of Vietnam, were watching the world change right in front of them. This was the time I grew up in, a time I know very well.

You don't see my points because you are thinking about this in a vacuum.
Or you're just trying to push people's buttons to get a reaction. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt that it's the former and not the latter. I have presented my facts and opinions. Take it or leave it. I think most people here would agree with me, even if you don't.

 

[xortex]

I would love to have seen more of the original show. I grew up watching that show. Facts are facts: Star Trek getting cancelled prematurely and being discovered in syndicated reruns is what made Star Trek the Cult Favorite that it is. If it ran a fourth season the quality would have suffered.The drop in quality was apparent by mid-season2. They were lucky to get a second and third season. Star Trek ended at the right time. And we have four spinoff series, an animated series and 11 movies that prove that point.

No 6, are you gonna let me go to sleep tonight ? It's late where I am. Those points certainly don't prove anything to me.

My points are based on factual information culled from popular viewing trends at the time, the budget issues that TOS had to deal with and what we know from what has been said by people who worked on the show.

Your points are based entirely on wishful thinking.

Star Trek getting cancelled was the best thing that could happen for Star Trek. It made fans hungry for something new from this universe. That's why TMP succeeded. That's why there were more films and series. The fascination of this show that only ran for 79 episodes and then cancelled captured the minds of people who just saw the first man walk on the moon, were weary of Vietnam, were watching the world change right in front of them. This was the time I grew up in, a time I know very well.

You don't see my points because you are thinking about this in a vacuum.
Or you're just trying to push people's buttons to get a reaction. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt that it's the former and not the latter. I have presented my facts and opinions. Take it or leave it. I think most people here would agree with me, even if you don't.

You should play the horses.

 

[number6]

No 6, are you gonna let me go to sleep tonight ? It's late where I am. Those points certainly don't prove anything to me.

My points are based on factual information culled from popular viewing trends at the time, the budget issues that TOS had to deal with and what we know from what has been said by people who worked on the show.

Your points are based entirely on wishful thinking.

Star Trek getting cancelled was the best thing that could happen for Star Trek. It made fans hungry for something new from this universe. That's why TMP succeeded. That's why there were more films and series. The fascination of this show that only ran for 79 episodes and then cancelled captured the minds of people who just saw the first man walk on the moon, were weary of Vietnam, were watching the world change right in front of them. This was the time I grew up in, a time I know very well.

You don't see my points because you are thinking about this in a vacuum.
Or you're just trying to push people's buttons to get a reaction. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt that it's the former and not the latter. I have presented my facts and opinions. Take it or leave it. I think most people here would agree with me, even if you don't.

You should play the horses.

That would be inhumane. I'd rather eat them.

 

[trevanian]

My points are based on factual information culled from popular viewing trends at the time, the budget issues that TOS had to deal with and what we know from what has been said by people who worked on the show.

Your points are based entirely on wishful thinking.

Star Trek getting cancelled was the best thing that could happen for Star Trek. It made fans hungry for something new from this universe. That's why TMP succeeded. That's why there were more films and series. The fascination of this show that only ran for 79 episodes and then cancelled captured the minds of people who just saw the first man walk on the moon, were weary of Vietnam, were watching the world change right in front of them. This was the time I grew up in, a time I know very well.

You don't see my points because you are thinking about this in a vacuum.
Or you're just trying to push people's buttons to get a reaction. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt that it's the former and not the latter. I have presented my facts and opinions. Take it or leave it. I think most people here would agree with me, even if you don't.

You should play the horses.

That would be inhumane. I'd rather eat them.

Try burgers from Jack-in-the-Box.