Repetitious phrases

[Lonemagpie]

i'd recommend 'The Last Samurai' except i'm errified if CLB watched it, he'd tear apart it's historical inaccuracies...

starting off with it having been the Prussian general staff that trained the Imperial Japanese Army at that point...

but it's a GREAT film, especially to prove that, no matter how weird he is IRL, he is a damn fine actor.

PLUS: Ken Watanabe.

I loved most of Last Samurai, was in tears at the final glorious futile charge...

But then they fucked it up. I said to the wife when we saw it - and to anybody else who'd listen - that, dramatically, Cruise should have died with Watanabe, and it been the photographer bloke who delivered the sword back to the Emperor, because having Cruise survive totally undercut everything that's gone before.

I then discovered (I think it's on the DVD commentary) that that's exactly what was supposed to happen oiginally, but preview audiences reacted negatively to Cruise biting the dust, so they changed it!

 

[Lonemagpie]

Avon: A Terrible Aspect

A friend of mine, a huge Avon fan, calls it "Avon: A Terrible Novel". (But I'm sure she isn't the only one.)

*Everybody* in B7 fandom calls it that!

 

[Sto-Vo-Kory]

Back to the main thread topic...

I don't think that I've ever read a Peter David Trek novel that didn't include the phrase "all hell broke loose" at least once -- often used to punctuate the end of chapters.

 

[Christopher]

I wonder... why is it never just some of Hell that breaks loose? You'd think after a while Satan would figure out he needs more than one lock for the whole thing...

 

[Sci]

Having read Mack's Wildfire, A Time to Kill, A Time to Heal, Warpath, Harbinger, The Sorrows of Empire, and Reap the Whirlwind, I can say quite honestly that I never noticed that phrase.

He has, however, had some very memorable turns of phrase in his novels that I found quite moving. My favorite is probably still one from Warpath: "Like the Fool gazing upon Lear, he saw only his shadow."

 

[Redshirts_Widow]

However, I didn't feel Cruise was the best choice for AFGM. I kept wondering how Rob Lowe would've done in the role. Cruise just didn't quite seem to master the Sorkin rhythm.

Having seen Rob Lowe in the role in London's West End I remember thinking he carried off the dialogue with some panache.

The poor chap playing Jessop however just seemed to be trying to out-Nicholas Jack Nicholas, and understandably came off second best. The female lead wasn't great either. Lowe, however, pulled off the witicisms nicely

 

[JeremyW]

I wonder... why is it never just some of Hell that breaks loose? You'd think after a while Satan would figure out he needs more than one lock for the whole thing...

I'd make a suggestion is that because in the ultimate battle of good vs. evil, Satan knows he CANNOT win, but tries EVERY time, and that if he's going to fight the righteous, he needs everything he can to win, thus allowing it all out, and not just some of it.

But, I kinda also guessed you were asking a rhetorical question as well...I just thought I'd get a chuckle in, even if it's dry.

 

[Trent Roman]

^ That's an interesting take on it. My impression of 'breaking loose' is that it would be an escape from Hell, and thus Satan, as the infernal warden, would want to keep those things which are within his domain under his control. If Satan keeps unleashing his full hordes, it just comes out to too many apocalypses.

Hey, I just had an idea for a new Prison Break spin-off...

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman

 

[Christopher]

The poor chap playing Jessop however just seemed to be trying to out-Nichol[son] Jack Nichol[son], and understandably came off second best.

So he couldn't handle the part?!!!

 

[Space Lemur X]

All the authors start their stories with all that copyright info... right on page one!!! It's not very original, and takes me right out of the story. When are they going to stop copying each other and do something different as a prologue for once? It's worse than that "Space... the final frontier" nonsense all the TV writers used to scam off each other for EVERY SINGLE EPISODE!!!@!

That's because back in the 60s people weren't very smart.

 

[David Mack]

Having read Mack's Wildfire, A Time to Kill, A Time to Heal, Warpath, Harbinger, The Sorrows of Empire, and Reap the Whirlwind, I can say quite honestly that I never noticed that phrase.

He has, however, had some very memorable turns of phrase in his novels that I found quite moving. My favorite is probably still one from Warpath: "Like the Fool gazing upon Lear, he saw only his shadow."

Thanks for the kind words. Every now and then I concoct a decent turn of phrase...

 

[Gagarin]

"Stood silent". Usually - Spock stood silent.

=)

Annoying - Telienaiaiai in the Shatnerverse books. I start to hate her name - I can't even spell it, but every other page it's 'But what about Telalaniaiaii!'

And is it just me, or is Picard always portrayed as a fool in each and every cross-over book?

 

[David Mack]

And is it just me, or is Picard always portrayed as a fool in each and every cross-over book?

Not in Destiny, he isn't...

 

[TerriO]

And is it just me, or is Picard always portrayed as a fool in each and every cross-over book?

Not in Destiny, he isn't...

Nor in Remembrance of Things Past. Although there were some extenuating circumstances surrounding him.....

 

[Gagarin]

I don't think I've seen/read Destiny.
Opinions, everyone?

 

[KRAD]

^ Well, Book 1, Gods of Night was only just released. Books 2 and 3 will be released over the course of the next couple of months.

Here's the spoiler thread for the book.

 

[BrotherBenny]

I think I owe you an apology, David. You are not the only one to use "stygian" frequently, I have found its occurrence in books by Andy and Mike (specifically, Kobayashi Maru which I am halfway through and loving by the way).

 

[TerriO]

I hereby move we deem "stygian" the official TrekLit cliche.

 

[David Henderson]

I hereby move we deem "stygian" the official TrekLit cliche.

Over Eav'oq and all the other fun terms we've thrown around? No, what we really need is a Cliche of the Month Calendar!

davidh

 

[PaulSimpson]

I hereby move we deem "stygian" the official TrekLit cliche.

Over Eav'oq and all the other fun terms we've thrown around? No, what we really need is a Cliche of the Month Calendar!

davidh

With pin ups of the worst offender?