Remember when the Daleks didn't want to exterminate all non-Daleks?

[BlastHardcheese]

The first episode. They just wanted to rid themselves of the Thals, and that was more because of their ancestral prejudice and fear. And yes they conquered Earth, but they didn't immediately wipe out the entire population. They even showed kindness to the Doctor and his companions by providing food and allowing them to take the anti radiation gloves.. drugs.

I don't think it was until 'The Evil of the Daleks' that they became the complete monsters that we know now. It's a pity that I'll never get to see more than a few short clips of it.

Imagine if the Daleks had only remained as belligerent antagonists and not as life-hating space Nazis. Do you think they could've even been redeemable if the story had been told that way? I wish there could've been a story where they acted as a force for good, but then I'm always fascinated by stories of villains becoming heroes.

 

[Starkers]

Re: Remember when the Daleks didn't want to exterminate all non-Daleks

Well they didn't wipe out the population of Earth because we were handy slave labour. Make no mistake, once the Earth was set up with a rocket up its arse I imagine we, as a species, would have been history.

 

[BlastHardcheese]

Re: Remember when the Daleks didn't want to exterminate all non-Daleks

Well they didn't wipe out the population of Earth because we were handy slave labour. Make no mistake, once the Earth was set up with a rocket up its arse I imagine we, as a species, would have been history.

Do we know that based on information that came before the later episodes where they were portrayed as omnicidal?

 

[Starkers]

Re: Remember when the Daleks didn't want to exterminate all non-Daleks

Well they'd invaded our planet, brainwashed many of us into zombie soldiers and turned the rest iinto a slave force dedicated to digging into the earth so they could turn it into a giant space ship. Once this process was complete it seems doubtful they were going to stick flowers in our hair and lead us in a communal choras of cum by ya...

 

[Mark_Nguyen]

Re: Remember when the Daleks didn't want to exterminate all non-Daleks

The Daleks also used Ogrons as a slave labor and fighting force, and have used mercenaries as operatives too. The overall plan during the original series was more to simply conquer and rule the universe rather than exterminate everyone in it who wasn't a Dalek. However, it was pretty plain to see that EVERYONE, whether they worked for them or not, would be in their sights before the story was done.

Mark

 

[Stevil2001]

Re: Remember when the Daleks didn't want to exterminate all non-Daleks

The first episode. They just wanted to rid themselves of the Thals, and that was more because of their ancestral prejudice and fear. And yes they conquered Earth, but they didn't immediately wipe out the entire population. They even showed kindness to the Doctor and his companions by providing food and allowing them to take the anti radiation gloves.. drugs.

I don't think it was until 'The Evil of the Daleks' that they became the complete monsters that we know now. It's a pity that I'll never get to see more than a few short clips of it.

Imagine if the Daleks had only remained as belligerent antagonists and not as life-hating space Nazis. Do you think they could've even been redeemable if the story had been told that way? I wish there could've been a story where they acted as a force for good, but then I'm always fascinated by stories of villains becoming heroes.

Are you using as evidence the serial where the Daleks are characterized as possessing "a dislike for the unlike"?

 

[davejames]

Re: Remember when the Daleks didn't want to exterminate all non-Daleks

I think I probably would prefer if the Daleks were presented more like, say, the Klingons in Trek-- as just another alien race (albeit a violent and savage one).

No matter how hard the show tries to push it on us, I have a hard time buying the Daleks as the equivalent to the Empire from Star Wars, or as the most evil creation in the entire universe.

I'm sorry, but they look a little too silly for all that. lol

 

[Blamo]

Re: Remember when the Daleks didn't want to exterminate all non-Daleks

The new Daleks certainly don't help.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Re: Remember when the Daleks didn't want to exterminate all non-Daleks

Thing I don't get is that, these new Daleks should be old school Daleks...

Oh my god.

Demolition Man.

You need a maniac to catch a maniac?

But really the universe had defeated the daleks.

The only way the 'new" Daleks would stand a chance is if the universe had gone soft.

"Well Doctor, if these younger more vital Daleks are too much for you, maybe we need a younger more vital doctor to save the day?"

 

[Candlelight]

Re: Remember when the Daleks didn't want to exterminate all non-Daleks

The first episode. They just wanted to rid themselves of the Thals, and that was more because of their ancestral prejudice and fear. They even showed kindness to the Doctor and his companions by providing food and allowing them to take the anti radiation gloves.. drugs.

The radiation drugs were probably to keep them all alive after learning they could be used as bait for the Thals AND to discover more about the Doctor's mysterious ship.

It highly depends on when this story takes place in overall chronology. It's always been hinted this takes place right near the 'end' but they do seem very content to just stay inside their city.

And yes they conquered Earth, but they didn't immediately wipe out the entire population.

As stated above, slave labour and robomen.

I don't think it was until 'The Evil of the Daleks' that they became the complete monsters that we know now. It's a pity that I'll never get to see more than a few short clips of it.

They seemed content to use the Time Destructor to completely wipe out an entire galaxy of species in The Daleks Master Plan. Thankfully only Kembel was 'erased'.

Other than that, in The Chase they were chasing the Doctor and didn't want to deviate from that plan.

In The Power of the Daleks they were forced to serve as slave labour to the humans colonists but only until Ep6 when they finally had their army and their own power. After that, the exterminations began in earnest.

Imagine if the Daleks had only remained as belligerent antagonists and not as life-hating space Nazis. Do you think they could've even been redeemable if the story had been told that way? I wish there could've been a story where they acted as a force for good, but then I'm always fascinated by stories of villains becoming heroes.

Dalek Sec is probably the closest you'll come to that.

 

[Cutter John]

Re: Remember when the Daleks didn't want to exterminate all non-Daleks

I'm sure its always been their ultimate goal. But up until now we've only seen small groups who were relatively weak (either because of limited numbers or their empire was simply spread too thin) and had to rely on slave labor and their intelligence to achieve their goals.
By the time the time war rolled around there were literally millions of them (probably due to a massive wartime breeding/building program). So they had more than enough brute force and technology on hand to dispense with all the pretenses and just roll in and exterminate everything.

Does that make any sense?