Remastered "The Cage"- REALLY "in its entirety"?
- Thread starter gastrof
- Start date
After the premiere release of the B/W & color hybrid of "The Cage" on videotape, the original editor of "The Menagerie" episodes heard about the Roddenberry introduction on the video, where he explains that all the color footage (and negatives) from "The Cage" not used in the two-parter had been lost for decades.
And this editor still had the negatives. This was all reported in "Starlog", and the missing footage was used to create the all-color "The Cage" for video release and as aired in "The Star Trek Saga: From One Generation to the Next".
Or are you claiming conspiracy theory?
Actually, this sort of thing happens all the time. Studios do find copies of "lost" films in storage, or sometimes collectors uncover things. I don't think it's fair to rant when you have no basis for your "suspicions."
And, what is a "kobashi naru?" Is it possible you were trying to type "Kobayashi Maru?" If so, how does it relate to your assertions?
Doug
I couldn't agree more. I don't think there are any conspiracies by Paramount or others.
I'm aware of many rolls of film that are in the hands of private collectors that have some astonishing material on them (deleted scenes, alternate versions, etc.). These were all obtained legitimately. In fact, as a collector myself who has several rolls of TOS film, I can attest to this. For example, one of my rolls of film (a deleted scene) was located in a garbage bag in a garage in CA. This roll, which had been forgotten about, had been given indirectly to the individual by Gene Roddenberry.
Which deleted scene do you have?
An hour and a half time slot alloted for it?
Everyone act surprised.
Everyone act surprised.
startrek.com was the source. But looking at that page now it seems they have changed it. It used to say "Of special note, the original pilot 'The Cage' will air in its entirety the weekend of April 26, 2008.". But now the "in its entirety" part is no longer there.
So I guess it will not be the uncut version after all, but the severely cut syndication version.
I don't believe I've ever seen the syndicated version of The Cage. The syndicated versions of regular TOS episodes are bad enough, but I just can't imagine how they could cut enough out of that episode to make it fit within the 40-some minute window they have and still have it be coherent.
3D Master
Rear Admiral
Recent? It's bloody twenty years old! And shown before Encounter at Farpoint for the first time. It wasn't found "in storage", it was found in the personal archives of one of the writers or production staff, may even have been Gene Roddenberry himself.
And it's not colorized. Back in 1987 they couldn't colorize something and making it look perfect. Just look at the Laurel & Hardy colorizations of a few years later. :shudders:
Not Gene. He had the b/w work print. It was the guy who edited "The Menagerie", IIRC. (It was in his attic or basement.)
To clarify, what the editor had were the extant trims from "The Cage", not the full color print. So, the remaining color footage had to be combined with the other footage... which explains why the first all-color version had frame shifts in the middle of scenes.
As I said, it's as reported in "Starlog". The missing pieces, long assumed destroyed, were found after all the publicity garnered by the b&w/color combo's video release.
Even with the color footage in the "all color" print back then, the same audio was present, down to the volume drops, the skips and so on. The film jumped in the same places too, which is why I personally always thought it was a colorization. The restored version on the DVDs, however, is miles better.
Because the b/w workprint and the original all-colour version (that got cut up to make the two-parter) were both struck off the same negative?
Similar threads
