I'm torn between remaking TOS or a completely new series. If remaking TOS then i'd want the same characters but different storylines. If they were making a new series I'd want it to take place on the starship enterprise. I'm not into spinoffs on different ships. I can appreciate the series that have expanded the universe of Star Trek but to me it should be about the voyages of star ship enterprise.
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I kinda agree with this statement. Of course this kinda limits us to Enterprise-B or C. B would of course need to be without Harriman
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I would remake Voyager's season 4-7 by keeping Kes and give her a human lifespan.
I would add Seven but omit the catsuit and not make her the main character as she became in the series. I would also have only 2-3 episodes with the Borg.
Neelix would remain on the ship, Lt.Carey wouldn't be killed off and "Endgame" would be completly different with a showdown with the female Caretaker and a decent homecoming. I would also keep the crew together for further missions in possible books and movies.
Otherwise, I would keep most of what happened in the series, no "doom and gloom" mediocre crap.
I would add Seven but omit the catsuit and not make her the main character as she became in the series. I would also have only 2-3 episodes with the Borg.
Neelix would remain on the ship, Lt.Carey wouldn't be killed off and "Endgame" would be completly different with a showdown with the female Caretaker and a decent homecoming. I would also keep the crew together for further missions in possible books and movies.
Otherwise, I would keep most of what happened in the series, no "doom and gloom" mediocre crap.
Tough question. Voyager or Enterprise is the obvious answer, but I might pick DS9. DS9's great, of course, but with so comparatively little extra effort it could be rendered perfect. Explain the Breen. Give Jadzia a better death. Follow up more on In the Pale Moonlight. Tie Dukat and the Pagh Wraiths back into the Dominion War. And blow up Earth.
Although given godlike powers, I'd probably just do a new series, set in the early 25th century. I'd probably call it Star Trek: Revenge.
Although given godlike powers, I'd probably just do a new series, set in the early 25th century. I'd probably call it Star Trek: Revenge.
I think that after so many series with the Enterprise alphabet as the hero ship, people would get kind of tired of it
I mean, it is Starfleet
OK, I'm back. I voted for Enterprise. Aside from loving the show, I really liked the idea of a prequel... Trouble is, I expected something more along the lines of Star Trek: The Right Stuff.Voted. I'll be back when I have more time to expound on which one and what I'd do with it.
I would have set it in the last decade of the 21st century. Earth is still a post-war mess but humanity is making progress toward unity and global peace.
The NX-01 crew represents several nations, a group of brash, cocky astronauts. The ship has technical glitches, there are injuries and death, and lots of misunderstandings and mistakes based on human-centric thinking. Occasional cases of xenophobia when they come across a particularly alien alien. There would be subtle evidence that the crew is engaging in fraternization.
While I'm OK with the idea of a Vulcan "babysitter" being shoved down the crew's collective throat (as long as the crew is resentful and suspicious for more than a few episodes in season 1
), I would have had a human doctor with some background in interspecies medical training, but not an alien superdoctor who can cure and fix anything. As a result, crew members and guest aliens will lose body parts, get seriously ill or injured and on occasion die! It's supposed to be DANGEROUS out there!Enterprise would have to return to Earth once in a while to replace maimed and dead crew members, make repairs and pick up supplies and equipment, so some episodes would be set on Earth where we'd get the chance to explore familial relationships and Earth-based friendships along with Star Fleet and civilian life on Earth in the late 21st C.
There would be no instantaneous communication with SF (I don't care how many relay satellites they drop). Laser-based hand weapons; no stun setting, tho' the shooter would have the option of causing injury as opposed to "shoot to kill." No transporter. 100 percent reliance on shuttlepods.
The ship would be a larger version of Cochrane's ship. Crew quarters would be even smaller than we saw on the show. The captain would not have a ready room. If you wanted to privacy, you'd go to your quarters (and hang a towel on the door to keep your roommates out
).T'Pol would very gradually become friends with two or three members of the crew, but most would remain wary and suspicious.
Main cast:
Capt. Jonathan Archer: Doesn't like Vulcans. He resents their interference in Earth's affairs (not to mention they tried to block his appointment as captain of Enterprise).
T'Pol: Vulcan "adviser." Actually, she's reporting back to her superiors to make a case to remove Archer, who they consider to be reckless.
Commander Charles "Trip" Tucker III: Chief engineer. Archer's best friend. The only member of the crew who gets away with challenging the captain's preconceptions. He's the first to try to befriend T'Pol. It doesn't go well.
Lt. Malcolm Reed: Tactical officer. He also has a covert assignment, unknown to Archer. Section 31, his first job with SF, has evidence of incursions into the region that could be a precursor to invasion. Reed's instructions are to get every scrap of information on every species Enterprise comes across. In some instances, that will create friction during some of the ship's first contacts.
Ensign Hoshi Reed: Malcolm's wife. As a civilian, she was an interpreter for the new United Nations. She joined SF after learning Reed was in line for assignment to the NX-01. She has a gift for learning languages and is assigned as linquist and protocol officer. Her background leaves her ill-prepared for encounters with aliens and the dangers that lie ahead.
Travis "Boomer" Mayweather: Security chief. Ship's practical joker (only in my version, where we show, rather than tell, we'll actually see the pranks. Malcolm will be his favorite target, much to Hoshi's bemusement).
Dr. John Phlox: Has two years' experience in the Interspecies Medical Exchange. As a result, unlike much of the crew, he's very comfortable with non-terrestrials.
Lt. Elizabeth Cutler: Physician's assistant. She will often accompany landing parties during missions away from the ship to provide medical care as needed.
It has to do with brand recognition. You change the uniforms, the design of the ship, the people on the show, the opening theme, and who knows what else. The branding people will generally insist you keep the ship's name, the Starfleet Delta, and/or maybe a few other things - to make sure the casual viewers know this is a Star Trek show.
And, Enterprises -B and -C don't count as hero ships.
Besides, the NCC-170100 doesn't continue the alphabet soup, and even has a new registry.
It has to do with brand recognition. You change the uniforms, the design of the ship, the people on the show, the opening theme, and who knows what else. The branding people will generally insist you keep the ship's name, the Starfleet Delta, and/or maybe a few other things - to make sure the casual viewers know this is a Star Trek show.
And, Enterprises -B and -C don't count as hero ships.
Besides, the NCC-170100 doesn't continue the alphabet soup, and even has a new registry.
I'm not sure it has to do with brand recognition. It's not like when people watch Voyager and DS9 they get confused as to if those are star trek or not. Just slap the name star trek on it and stay faithful to the general idea and you should have a good series as long as the writings good and the ideas stay fresh.
I picked Enterprise, though it was a toss-up between that, Voyager and creating a new series.
I would dump the Temporal Cold War, and have the pilot episode be about an alien attack on a distant Earth outpost. The Intrepid is sent to investigate, being the only ship close enough. It is destroyed, believed lost with all hands. Starfleet suffers a loss of prestige and they build Enterprise as a way to reinvigorate the fleet. Archer is only given the job because he is Henry Archer's son, and is not a competent commanding officer. The Vulcan Advisory Council foist T'Pol on the ship to be their eyes and ears.
Section 31 pull strings and put Reed on board, as armoury officer and also in charge of the marine detachment. Commander Tucker is the only one who Enterprise inside and out and helped put the ship together. He is also Archer's good friend and helps him out when his decisions are screwy. Mayweather is the helmsman and Sato is the linguist, her backstory can stay as is, but she doesn't get her spacelegs so quickly.
Enterprise's first mission is to find out what happened to the Intrepid and the distant outpost. They discover that a race called the Romulans are encroaching on this territory and were responsible. Archer wants to take the fight to them but Tucker warns him against it. Starfleet can ill afford another fiasco. But when the Romulans attack another outpost, Archer ignores his friend's warnings and attacks. The ship is damaged and Archer is kidnapped. He is interrogated by the Orions, a subject race of the Romulans, and never meets the Romulan Captain.
He is thrown in a cell where he meets the Intrepid's commanding officer and some of the senior crew. Working together, they plot their escape and manage to steal a Romulan shuttle. Several of them are killed in the escape, and Archer is critically injured. The Intrepid's captain gets them back to the Enterprise and takes command. He heads back to Earth but the Romulans cannot allow the truth of their existence to get out and send the Orions after the Starfleet ship. The Enterprise destroys the Orion ships and upon their return to Earth and debriefing, it is decided that the Enterprise must learn more about these Romulans. T'Pol stays on board to look after Vulcan interests; Reed keeps watch for Section 31, and Archer is still recovering from his injuries. Captain Ramirez of the Intrepid takes command of Enterprise--officially as an interim commander--until Archer is back on his feet...
And away we go.
I would dump the Temporal Cold War, and have the pilot episode be about an alien attack on a distant Earth outpost. The Intrepid is sent to investigate, being the only ship close enough. It is destroyed, believed lost with all hands. Starfleet suffers a loss of prestige and they build Enterprise as a way to reinvigorate the fleet. Archer is only given the job because he is Henry Archer's son, and is not a competent commanding officer. The Vulcan Advisory Council foist T'Pol on the ship to be their eyes and ears.
Section 31 pull strings and put Reed on board, as armoury officer and also in charge of the marine detachment. Commander Tucker is the only one who Enterprise inside and out and helped put the ship together. He is also Archer's good friend and helps him out when his decisions are screwy. Mayweather is the helmsman and Sato is the linguist, her backstory can stay as is, but she doesn't get her spacelegs so quickly.
Enterprise's first mission is to find out what happened to the Intrepid and the distant outpost. They discover that a race called the Romulans are encroaching on this territory and were responsible. Archer wants to take the fight to them but Tucker warns him against it. Starfleet can ill afford another fiasco. But when the Romulans attack another outpost, Archer ignores his friend's warnings and attacks. The ship is damaged and Archer is kidnapped. He is interrogated by the Orions, a subject race of the Romulans, and never meets the Romulan Captain.
He is thrown in a cell where he meets the Intrepid's commanding officer and some of the senior crew. Working together, they plot their escape and manage to steal a Romulan shuttle. Several of them are killed in the escape, and Archer is critically injured. The Intrepid's captain gets them back to the Enterprise and takes command. He heads back to Earth but the Romulans cannot allow the truth of their existence to get out and send the Orions after the Starfleet ship. The Enterprise destroys the Orion ships and upon their return to Earth and debriefing, it is decided that the Enterprise must learn more about these Romulans. T'Pol stays on board to look after Vulcan interests; Reed keeps watch for Section 31, and Archer is still recovering from his injuries. Captain Ramirez of the Intrepid takes command of Enterprise--officially as an interim commander--until Archer is back on his feet...
And away we go.
ENT. Still a great premise, execution sucked. Most folks have the basic idea how so I won't bother detailing it. Basically like this:
All this is good, too:
All this is good, too:
I agree - but companies like Paramount have whole sections of their legal and PR departments dedicated to brand preservation, and the people who inhabit those departments don't think like you or I.
And if I could get away with it, Commodore Chandler's ship would be the Triumphant. And I might add one more to the crew roster...
Lt. Cmdr Triumphant, aka Lt. Cmdr Richard Bateson, Personality of the Ship's Computer, Operations and Second Officer - Kelsey Grammer
...and sorta rip off the Andromeda concept.
I agree - but companies like Paramount have whole sections of their legal and PR departments dedicated to brand preservation, and the people who inhabit those departments don't think like you or I.
And if I could get away with it, Commodore Chandler's ship would be the Triumphant. And I might add one more to the crew roster...
Lt. Cmdr Triumphant, aka Lt. Cmdr Richard Bateson, Personality of the Ship's Computer, Operations and Second Officer - Kelsey Grammer
...and sorta rip off the Andromeda concept.
Brand preservation is not a big problem, but it's not like they are blocking ideas that are a sure fire hit, it's just that they have to make sure that no one damages the trek name (to baddly anyway). The idea that you can't have a series based on the enterprise is just riduculous. You just can't have a series that has almost nothing to do with trek besides the name and the look.
In addition to the other ideas posted, I'd have liked more on the Boomers. Mayweather should have been more of a self-assured smart-ass, because the Boomers know more about the big nasty universe than their cowardly fellow humans who have stayed at home. They should be semi-lawless but indispensible to Starfleet, which is the new kid on the block. Mayweather should have been the least green and naive among them, not the most.
I would have kept in mind that humans are not a particularly powerful society among the more-advanced aliens surrounding them. Enterprise's mission among other things would be to make allies among aliens to forestall the inevitable day Earth gets thwacked. Which is why Archer's characterization as an emotionally volatile loose cannon really rankled me; the guy chosen for that role should have been a more stolid type, very difficult to rattle.
How about casting ideas? I'd make two big changes to the ENT lineup - to have Archer die in an early episode, and Trip have to take over, since T'Pol is a Vulcan and therefore can't be the captain; and I'd switch the genders of T'Pol and Mayweather, just cuz. The character can be "T'Paul" pending a more serious monicker.
Cast (entirely discounting whether these actors already have shows I'd like to see them stay in):
Archer - some grizzled old character-actor type, like Powers Boothe
Trip - still the one and only Connor Trinneer
T'Paul - Zachary Levi
Mayweather - Dana Davis
Reed - James Purfoy
Hoshi - Yunjin Kim
Phlox - still the one and only John Billingsley
Other random thoughts on guest actors:
Jeffrey Combs needs to return as Shran of course.
Gregory Itzin, Harry Lennix, Kristin Bell, Zaljko Ivanek, Clea Duvall and Xander Berkeley need to have roles of some sort.
Shohreh Aghdashloo will play a Vulcan high-mucky muck of some sort. For added fun, she might be a Rommie double agent.
Josh Holloway will show up as a sexy space rogue who can't keep his shirt on.
Mary Lynn Rajskub would show up cast wildly against type - seductive space priestess or something.
I would have kept in mind that humans are not a particularly powerful society among the more-advanced aliens surrounding them. Enterprise's mission among other things would be to make allies among aliens to forestall the inevitable day Earth gets thwacked. Which is why Archer's characterization as an emotionally volatile loose cannon really rankled me; the guy chosen for that role should have been a more stolid type, very difficult to rattle.
How about casting ideas? I'd make two big changes to the ENT lineup - to have Archer die in an early episode, and Trip have to take over, since T'Pol is a Vulcan and therefore can't be the captain; and I'd switch the genders of T'Pol and Mayweather, just cuz. The character can be "T'Paul" pending a more serious monicker.
Cast (entirely discounting whether these actors already have shows I'd like to see them stay in):
Archer - some grizzled old character-actor type, like Powers Boothe
Trip - still the one and only Connor Trinneer
T'Paul - Zachary Levi
Mayweather - Dana Davis
Reed - James Purfoy
Hoshi - Yunjin Kim
Phlox - still the one and only John Billingsley
Other random thoughts on guest actors:
Jeffrey Combs needs to return as Shran of course.
Gregory Itzin, Harry Lennix, Kristin Bell, Zaljko Ivanek, Clea Duvall and Xander Berkeley need to have roles of some sort.
Shohreh Aghdashloo will play a Vulcan high-mucky muck of some sort. For added fun, she might be a Rommie double agent.
Josh Holloway will show up as a sexy space rogue who can't keep his shirt on.
Mary Lynn Rajskub would show up cast wildly against type - seductive space priestess or something.
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