Religion and Star Trek

[Kemaiku]

Which helps someone who needs actual physical help how in any way?

It exists only to make the religious person feel better about themselves, instead of actually putting that effort into helping properly. Then when it fails, they just claim god wanted that person to suffer or die, essentially.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

There are both kinds. Some people pray for guidance in their actions and then proceed to act, many times for the greater good. Others pray while remaining willfully inactive, despite knowing full well what could be done.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

I would amend that to "what should be done" and agree.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Well, could and should.

 

[Nerys Myk]

That E.C. Lesiastes guy totally ripped off the Byrds.

 

[JeffinOakland]

Well, at least they mean well and it isn't the condescending and passive-aggressive "I'll pray for you" that they throw at nonbelievers.

 

[Amaris]

Well, at least they mean well and it isn't the condescending and passive-aggressive "I'll pray for you" that they throw at nonbelievers.

Ooh, I don't like passive aggressive "prayer warriors". I do appreciate it when people send me, or my family, their thoughts and prayers. For me, prayer is hopeful wishing at best, but I cannot deny that when I see my 9 year old niece and 5 year old nephew close their eyes, bow their heads, and fold their little hands together in earnest prayer, that it does something inside of me, and I just want whatever it is they're hoping for to come true. If there is a god, it is my fervent wish that he or she answers the prayers of children*.


*Even if that prayer is for a mountain of candy, surely a god or gods can spread that answer out over a number of years, just to prevent tooth decay and such.

 

[locutus101]

Ooh, I don't like passive aggressive "prayer warriors". I do appreciate it when people send me, or my family, their thoughts and prayers. For me, prayer is hopeful wishing at best, but I cannot deny that when I see my 9 year old niece and 5 year old nephew close their eyes, bow their heads, and fold their little hands together in earnest prayer, that it does something inside of me, and I just want whatever it is they're hoping for to come true. If there is a god, it is my fervent wish that he or she answers the prayers of children*.


*Even if that prayer is for a mountain of candy, surely a god or gods can spread that answer out over a number of years, just to prevent tooth decay and such.

Anything's possible, until proof is given to the contrary.

 

[publiusr]

One of my favorite of Dunsany's Gods of Pegana:

And Jabim is the Lord of broken things, who sitteth behind the house to lament the things that are cast away. And there he sitteth lamenting the broken things until the worlds be ended, or until someone cometh to mend the broken things. Or sometimes he sitteth by the river's edge to lament the forgotten things that drift upon it.

A kindly god is Jabim, whose heart is sore if anything be lost.

I'd like to think that an old AMT model my cousin broke is there--with Thomas Sasser, repairing it.

I'd like to believe that.

 

[locutus101]

One of my favorite of Dunsany's Gods of Pegana:

And Jabim is the Lord of broken things, who sitteth behind the house to lament the things that are cast away. And there he sitteth lamenting the broken things until the worlds be ended, or until someone cometh to mend the broken things. Or sometimes he sitteth by the river's edge to lament the forgotten things that drift upon it.

A kindly god is Jabim, whose heart is sore if anything be lost.

I'd like to think that an old AMT model my cousin broke is there--with Thomas Sasser, repairing it.

I'd like to believe that.

I've lost count of the things of mine that younger cousins broke while I was away.

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

Anything's possible, until proof is given to the contrary.

Except I don't have time to believe in everything that has not been disproven yet.
Cherrypicking is not my thing.

 

[Spot261]

I think what this thread is lacking is a bit of good old fashioned frothing at the mouth religious fanaticism. God how I miss 5 billion......

 

[locutus101]

Except I don't have time to believe in everything that has not been disproven yet.
Cherrypicking is not my thing.

That's pretty much the way I feel.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

I think what this thread is lacking is a bit of good old fashioned frothing at the mouth religious fanaticism. God how I miss 5 billion......

He's not really gone... as long as we remember him.

Plus, he's not really gone. He registered a dual yesterday to post a (quickly deleted) rant in the MA forum. Shine on you crazy diamond.

 

[Spot261]

Can't you keep all these things for later perusal by bored members? You know, buried away in some dark recess of the site as a guilty, Victorian freak show type pleasure we don't speak of?

You could even give the place a euphemism to distract attention, place it at the end of a convoluted and unmarked series of nondescript links and call it the "boring and not at all worthy of attention vault of splendidly weird stuff we couldn't quite bring ourselves to get rid of", or maybe just "the crypt", section 31 style?

 

[publiusr]

I think what this thread is lacking is a bit of good old fashioned frothing at the mouth religious fanaticism.

I am the Pope of the One True Church of the Heavy Lift.
Jehovah is spelled HLLV

Thy rod and thy five segment solids--they comfort me.

Death to the EELV infidels--Death to SLS critics---they shall be tied to Pad 39B's flame trench!

 

[sojourner]

Can't you keep all these things for later perusal by bored members? You know, buried away in some dark recess of the site as a guilty, Victorian freak show type pleasure we don't speak of?

You could even give the place a euphemism to distract attention, place it at the end of a convoluted and unmarked series of nondescript links and call it the "boring and not at all worthy of attention vault of splendidly weird stuff we couldn't quite bring ourselves to get rid of", or maybe just "the crypt", section 31 style?

It exists. It's called The Neutral Zone. Check your personal profile settings for access.

 

[Amaris]

It exists. It's called The Neutral Zone. Check your personal profile settings for access.

We have cookies.

 

[locutus101]

He's not really gone... as long as we remember him.
....

"Children Of Time"!

 

[The Old Mixer]

"To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:

A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;

A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;

A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;

A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;

A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;

A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;

A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace." (Ecclesiastes 3:1-8)

Needs some 12-string.

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