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Registration Mark: NCC - 1701

The registry numbers have never made any sense. Anyone who says otherwise is talking nonsense.

Its a bunch of numbers.

Real-worldly - I seem to remember it being Matt Jeffries 17th attempt at a design, but in the Star Trek world there has never been any explanation of how they work. If he had changed the number, Abrams would have been set on fire by an angry pointy-eared wearing mob.

I thought 1701 was the registry on Jeffries' plane.

That seems to ring a bell, but it rings a bell of not being true. I'll have a look in my Star Trek books when I get home tonight. I'm sure it was his 17th pass, but I might be wrong.
 
No, seriously, 1701 is a reference to Forbidden Planet, as far as I know.

EDIT: Watch (and listen) here at 2:24.
 
Because STXI is a movie. Too many things in this movie don't jive with series, even taking into account a timeline change. It was a movie made by a profit-driven corporation. Best to accept that it's different.

As opposed to the rest of Star Trek being made by a non-profit charitable organization? :rolleyes:
 
Take a look at historic fanon Starfleet designs, then look at the older ships from the new move, especially the Kelvin from 2233. That ship is supposed to be 80 years more advanced than the NX series. In the old timeline, in 2233 they had the Valley Forge-class cruiser (http://www.starfleet-museum.org/valleyforge.htm). So instead of building very primitive-looking "cruisers" staffed by 325 officers and crew, the Federation operated "explorers" with crews of 800. Bigger ships means longer build time, also the Federation wouldn't have a need for a ship the size of Enterprise until the 2250s with bigger existing ships around.
 
There is no VERBAL "CANON" reference that the enterprise was built in 2245. BUT--- THERE IS A VERBAL "CANON" REFERENCE in STAR TREK 3 (YES!!!) saying that the enterprise was 20-something YEARS OLD. SO THERE U HAVE IT :-)

OH.. THERE IS THE CAGE... 2254 how do you know that wasn't the SECOND MISSION OF THE SHIP, and the FIRST ONE was the assignment to go FIGHT in RIGEL, just like it happened on star trek?

Sorry for the CAPS LOCK hahahahahaha
 
"Why is it NCC-1701"

"NCC's 1-1699 were sabotaged and destroyed. NCC 1700 vanished without a trace 24 hours after becoming operational. To this day, no one knows what happened to it."

"Swell."

To my recollection the reasoning behind the assignment of Registration Codes has never been explained on-screen. So i have no problems with the Enterprise still being the 1701 despite its late building. For all we know its the 1701 because the Federation has a list of names to call ships, and Enterprise is 1701th on the list.
 
My theory: The keel may have been laid at the same time as in the original timeline and construction commenced. During that time, all the "new technologies" developed from the Kelvin data started coming on line and Starfleet started incorporating them into the new ship. This led to one or more rebuilds of the entire ship, similar to the TOS/TMP rebuild.
That only works if you ignore the upscaling of the new ship.

Something tells me that the upscaling is a myth created by non-canon sites. While there may not be a set size spec in canon, yet, I don't think JJ Abrams is dumb enough to have the ship scaled to a size where giants can walk the decks (decks indicated by window placement) or entire swaths of the ship being windowless.
It's a space ship, not a cruise liner, it doesn't need windows.
 
The registry numbers have never made any sense. Anyone who says otherwise is talking nonsense.

Its a bunch of numbers.

Real-worldly - I seem to remember it being Matt Jeffries 17th attempt at a design, but in the Star Trek world there has never been any explanation of how they work. If he had changed the number, Abrams would have been set on fire by an angry pointy-eared wearing mob.

I thought 1701 was the registry on Jeffries' plane.

That seems to ring a bell, but it rings a bell of not being true. I'll have a look in my Star Trek books when I get home tonight. I'm sure it was his 17th pass, but I might be wrong.
The number on Jefferies' plane is NC 17740. (Reverse '47', heh.) The 'NC' in Enterprise's registry number comes from that, at least, but I'm not sure of the rest.

As for the number remaining unaltered in the new timeline, I think changing it would have done more widespread damage than the Hobus Star going SuperDuperNova. It would certainly have brought the entire Internet to its knees.
 
I thought 1701 was the registry on Jeffries' plane.

That seems to ring a bell, but it rings a bell of not being true. I'll have a look in my Star Trek books when I get home tonight. I'm sure it was his 17th pass, but I might be wrong.

I remember a similar story also; a little different. The one I heard the story is that Enterprise wasn't Matt's 17th design, he said it was [starfleets] 17th basic starship design; build number 1, thus 1701.
 
Something tells me that the upscaling is a myth created by non-canon sites. While there may not be a set size spec in canon, yet, I don't think JJ Abrams is dumb enough to have the ship scaled to a size where giants can walk the decks (decks indicated by window placement) or entire swaths of the ship being windowless.
Personally, I'd rather accept windowless decks than a crew density resembling sardines. ;)
 
The destruction of the Kelvin may have resulted in more resources being pumped into Starfleet. Thus, more, bigger, and sooner.

Also, and I know I harp on this a lot, but there is the matter of information gained from Crewman Daniels' quarters. It really seems like someone was manipulating things to make certain some things came to pass, like a ship and crew that stopped so many threats to the Federation and the universe in general. The ship's name, registry, Chekov's assignment...
 
I heard somewhere that Roddenberry numbered it (the original TOS Enterprise) "1701" as an homage to the house number he lived across the street from.
 
I heard that Roddenberry got laid 1,701 times and decided to immortalize it in his TV show to show up his cop buddies.
 
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