Reflection at Enterprise build site

[trevanian]

Black point differences, for example, can be exaggerated on a computer monitor in a way that is unnoticeable on the big screen or even on most home theater setups. Just sayin'.

True. That's why the first shot when they come up walking up on the hull in TMP looked great in the theater and lousy everywhere else. I'm not talking about the profile saucer shot with the figures, that ALWAYS looked terrible, but the first shot, where they rise up on the lift. You cringe to see it now, but in the theater it looked fantastic to me.

Although to play devil's advocate, I always have my contrast up very high, with the black levels set so that the black on a video should match my monitor's bg ... that usually makes mediocre shots look better on my monitor. In this instance, though ...

 

[Gepard]

Black point differences, for example, can be exaggerated on a computer monitor in a way that is unnoticeable on the big screen or even on most home theater setups. Just sayin'.

Although to play devil's advocate, I always have my contrast up very high, with the black levels set so that the black on a video should match my monitor's bg ... that usually makes mediocre shots look better on my monitor. In this instance, though ...

Modern DVD players can do the same thing--there's a shot of one of the Black Riders in the first LOTR film where Weta must have had to paint out one of the actor's faces. Just for a split second, with our home DVD player set to one of it's "theatrical" image modes, a big black oval is visible popping in and out over the middle of the hood.

 

[trevanian]

Black point differences, for example, can be exaggerated on a computer monitor in a way that is unnoticeable on the big screen or even on most home theater setups. Just sayin'.

Although to play devil's advocate, I always have my contrast up very high, with the black levels set so that the black on a video should match my monitor's bg ... that usually makes mediocre shots look better on my monitor. In this instance, though ...

Modern DVD players can do the same thing--there's a shot of one of the Black Riders in the first LOTR film where Weta must have had to paint out one of the actor's faces. Just for a split second, with our home DVD player set to one of it's "theatrical" image modes, a big black oval is visible popping in and out over the middle of the hood.

Sounds like the black matte slug on the Emperor's makeup in JEDI on the laserdisc I have ... I guess it was there to cover an imperfection, but on LD it looks like some kind of dark worm-thing. Difference is, on JEDI this optical coverup/blemish just sits there through the shot, and is really annoying.

 

[Grup]

So let's go with the whole intentional lens flare scenario. Let's all agree that it's an Abrhams "thing". What the hell is it there for?

I've watched a lot of movies and have never noticed these reflections, and the movies "looked real" to me. If I just look around my own natural surroundings I don't see these little floaty images reflecting anywhere. How do they lend realism to a scene? Is it a sci-fi thing or just the nature of the beast when doing a movie with FX? I honestly don't remember seeing these kind of things in other movies. Special effects or not.

What don't I get here?

 

[PixelMagic]

So let's go with the whole intentional lens flare scenario. Let's all agree that it's an Abrhams "thing". What the hell is it there for?

I've watched a lot of movies and have never noticed these reflections, and the movies "looked real" to me. If I just look around my own natural surroundings I don't see these little floaty images reflecting anywhere. How do they lend realism to a scene? Is it a sci-fi thing or just the nature of the beast when doing a movie with FX? I honestly don't remember seeing these kind of things in other movies. Special effects or not.

What don't I get here?

To answer your questions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lens_flare

 

[Grup]

WOW. I just read (I believe) Frontiers thread on this very subject. How stupid is this lens flare effect?

AND from what I can see. The lens flare in the stills in this thread (http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=83664) look "dramatic", whereas the reflections I'm referencing just look like a goof.



Now off to Wikipedia.

 

[Gepard]

If I just look around my own natural surroundings I don't see these little floaty images reflecting anywhere.

I guess you don't wear glasses, huh?

 

[Grup]

If I just look around my own natural surroundings I don't see these little floaty images reflecting anywhere.

I guess you don't wear glasses, huh?