References to the Prequel Trilogy?
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The new movie got me in the mood to rewatch all the old movies. The OT was good, just like always. I think I even enjoyed it a little more.
The Prequels, though...they seem even worse now. They are just so different from the rest of the Star Wars movie. They don't even look like they're part of the same universe, and the acting is so horrendously boring.
The Prequels, though...they seem even worse now. They are just so different from the rest of the Star Wars movie. They don't even look like they're part of the same universe, and the acting is so horrendously boring.
The prequels are static and look worse than they did back in the hey-day, yes, but I was still happy when I heard Ewan McGregor's voice in TWA.
10 times The Force Awakens nods to the Star Wars prequels from How Stuff Works.
I think 4, 5, and 10 are bits of a stretch, but I agree with the others.
How exactly were we ( the viewers ) supposed to know that someone in the brief Hosnian Prime shot was allegedly a senator from Naboo?Anyway, another "connection" with the prequels is that TFA continues in the grand tradition, established by Revenge of the Sith, of not letting the audience know the names of some of the new planets ( without having to check the internet, that is ). It turns out that every other preexisting SW movie other than ROTS actually named in dialogue all the planets that were featured. In TFA we hear the name Jakku often enough, and we're told of the Hosnian system and the Ileenium system, but we never hear "Takodana" or "D'Qar" or the name of the planet where Luke is found.
By the description of their action figure (in Hosnian Prime attire)?
You know, there is a fairly good chance Jar Jar Binks was a member of the new senate. I like to think so, at least. 
Big missed fanwank opportunity not to have him appear in that one scene.
Big missed fanwank opportunity not to have him appear in that one scene.
Although strongly established in offscreen materials at the time, the name "Tatooine" is never spoken in ANH.
"Oh nose! Meesa no watchin'!"You know, there is a fairly good chance Jar Jar Binks was a member of the new senate. I like to think so, at least.
Big missed fanwank opportunity not to have him appear in that one scene.
Yeah, I was going to say. Tatooine was never mentioned.
And going by original theatrical releases, when the name is first spoken onscreen at the end of TESB, there's no context to tell the audience that they're talking about Luke's homeworld from the first film, as it hasn't been established onscreen that Jabba's operation is based on the same planet.
Though anyone who was paying attention to offscreen Star Wars tie-in materials could reasonably be expected to know these things at the time. I certainly did.
Though anyone who was paying attention to offscreen Star Wars tie-in materials could reasonably be expected to know these things at the time. I certainly did.
"Oh nose! Meesa no watchin'!"You know, there is a fairly good chance Jar Jar Binks was a member of the new senate. I like to think so, at least.
Big missed fanwank opportunity not to have him appear in that one scene.
"Wessa in big doodoo n---" *BOOM*
As far as I'm concerned, until it's contradicted by something canon Jar Jar died on Hosnia.
Regarding #5:
There's nothing for me to re-evaluate. I always thought the Jedi taking in children and indoctrinating them from infancy was one of the more twisted aspects of the Jedi Order.
Ever since the prequels came out, I've kind of had a difficult time rooting for the Jedi. Sure, maybe the Sith are evil, but the Jedi don't exactly seem good.
The galaxy would be better off without the Force.
That's kind of the point of the PT, though. While the Jedi were indeed noble and dedicated to serving the Republic, they weren't above fallibility. The PT emphasized this with not only their methods of indoctrinating "Younglings" but also their strict, dogmatic adherence to an outdated code. They were, in many ways, the "good guys" but they also led clones into battle (basically as canon fodder) and plotted a coup. I know Lucas gets a bad rap sometimes for his own adherence to Joseph Campbell's "Code" of Heroes. But the fallibility of the Jedi Order (and Republic) very much fit into Campbell's "world in need of change."
So yeah, whether or not one agrees with it, I think it was a deliberate decision to make the Jedi difficult to root for, particularly the closer you look at their practices (and which is why, IMO, Qui-Gon's death is all the more tragic - he, at least, seemed able to see past the dogma).
So yeah, whether or not one agrees with it, I think it was a deliberate decision to make the Jedi difficult to root for, particularly the closer you look at their practices (and which is why, IMO, Qui-Gon's death is all the more tragic - he, at least, seemed able to see past the dogma).
^ A valid point, to be sure.
ETA:
I think the characters I cared most about were Obi-Wan and Padme - mostly because they were trying their best to do the right thing in a world that was clearly crumbling around them. It's too bad that Obi-Wan didn't have more wit (more in line with his behavior at the bar in AOTC) and Padme a bit more edge (like Leia). But, because of those two characters, I did find myself invested in the story (it also helped that Palpatine was so compellingly portrayed by McDiarmid).
But yeah, there wasn't a clear "root for this person" character - certainly not like Rey (or Finn, or even Poe) in TFA.
ETA:
I think the characters I cared most about were Obi-Wan and Padme - mostly because they were trying their best to do the right thing in a world that was clearly crumbling around them. It's too bad that Obi-Wan didn't have more wit (more in line with his behavior at the bar in AOTC) and Padme a bit more edge (like Leia). But, because of those two characters, I did find myself invested in the story (it also helped that Palpatine was so compellingly portrayed by McDiarmid).
But yeah, there wasn't a clear "root for this person" character - certainly not like Rey (or Finn, or even Poe) in TFA.
