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Red Letter Media Short Treks - Re:View

At some point you have to sort of concede to statistics. I mean, I suppose a few people like Freddie Got Fingered. I think it's safe to say that the movie, objectively speaking, sucks. And, um, that movie has a 1-point advantage on Discovery's audience score.
Statistics are still made up of peoples opinions.
 
People have higher expectations of shows now in the era of "peak TV.' Also, with heavy serialization, it's much more important to get things right. If you have only a 50% batting average with an episodic show with 26 episodes - that's a lot of good TV. But the same 50/50 odds with modern short seasons and heavy serialization means if you fuck up the arc, it's all pretty much tarnished.

I agree with you, my level of patience with TV is a lot lower these days, but Trek is something special. I'm willing to be more patient and accept a few weaknesses here and there. I've long been that way. In a vacuum, without the Trek name and connections, I'd probably have given up on Voyager and Enterprise fairly early.
 
I enjoyed some individual episodes - most of the latter portion of Act 1 - a good deal. But thematically Season 1 was all over the place. The switch in showrunners was quite evident. After Fuller was fired, the show lumbered along due to the sunk cost and CBS's desire for a Trek revival. But I don't think anyone really had a singular vision about where the show was supposed to head, which is why it's so hard to tease out the central themes - why particular things happened beyond it being required by the plot.

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That Last Jedi review was the most detailed dissection I've ever seen on Youtube. Seems like you'll just reject anything that you disagree with no matter how thorough it is.

While their TLJ review was very thorough, very fair, and very well reasoned, it stands in stark contrast to their DSC analysis, which felt very emotionally driven (with good reason), less rationally approached, and far more reactionary.

I get it, they're long time Trek fans, so there's a more emotional component than with Star Wars, a franchise they'd grown disillusioned with 20 years ago at this point. Maybe they'll be a little more even handed with criticism of a Trek series released in 10 or 15 years.
 
That Last Jedi review was the most detailed dissection I've ever seen on Youtube. Seems like you'll just reject anything that you disagree with no matter how thorough it is.
For The Last Jedi or films in general? Because I could point you to a far more detailed examination of Tyler Perry films.

I'm being serious, Tyler Perry is into some weird things. Far weirder than Madea.


As for TLJ, I've seen better too. Nerdwriter had a good one, so did Just Write and Lessons from the Screenplay.
 
For The Last Jedi or films in general? Because I could point you to a far more detailed examination of Tyler Perry films.

I'm being serious, Tyler Perry is into some weird things. Far weirder than Madea.


As for TLJ, I've seen better too. Nerdwriter had a good one, so did Just Write and Lessons from the Screenplay.

Heck it wasn't even the most detailed dissection of a movie RLM has ever done...
 
Heck it wasn't even the most detailed dissection of a movie RLM has ever done...

It's kind of a waste of time anyway because that sort of thing only preaches to the converted and fans can watch 24 hours straight of deconstruction and still not change their minds.
 
It's kind of a waste of time anyway because that sort of thing only preaches to the converted and fans can watch 24 hours straight of deconstruction and still not change their minds.

Very true. I do watch it for the entertainment value. I even enjoyed the re:view of DSC, as much as I disagreed with their take. I really just enjoy their personalities and discussions.
 
I enjoy opposing points of view. I just don't agree with them and a YouTube video, with no personal connection to me, is hardly going to make that happen.
 
They're spot-on about Runaway. Barely qualified as a story. Alarming, coming from the guy who runs Star Trek CBS, and is the current showrunner of Discovery, last I heard. Brightest Star gets a solid meh. I won't judge it too harshly as it must be setup for the upcoming season.

On the other hand, Calypso was by far the most successful thing produced under the Disco banner, and Escape Artist was amusing. This is somewhat encouraging for the future of Trek @ All Access, but not so much for Disco, as neither writer will be working for that show and its exploration of ruddy seraphim who could wipe out all life in the multiverse!
 
I'm not so sure that the writers will be exclusive to each show anymore.
SInce They have already set a precedent with the crossover between Discovery & Picard Trek and with Multiple Trek shows in the pipeline, I see no reason why future episodes can't be written by 'Guest' contributors.

In fact, that's how many of the TOS episodes were done.
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Runaway was fun, it was just too brief. I feel like you could cut it alongside Escape Artist and have a decent episode with an old-style A/B plot.
 
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