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Red Dwarf, this weekend

There are good ways to do meta, and bad ways to do meta.

This, unless part 3 really steps up and makes up for the first 2, is a prime example of the bad way to do meta.
 
Am I the only one who thought the scene with the kids on the bus giving their take on Kochanski's fate was possibly a dig at fans who come up with ways of explaining things on their favourite shows so they don't have to accept deaths or changes?

And I'm still considering the likelihood of the Back to Reality resolution happening here. Seems the only possible way they can get out of what's been written and still have a credible new series (which in all honesty I hope doesn't happen now).
 
There are good ways to do meta, and bad ways to do meta.

This, unless part 3 really steps up and makes up for the first 2, is a prime example of the bad way to do meta.

I agree.


For those of you dissatisfied with this latest televised offering. Here's my red dwarf story with a better meta...


Lister is building a new aerial for the ship out of some of Kryton's spare circuits, because the old aerial stopped receiving reruns of the killer bikini vampire girls...

but it happened to attract some transdimensional leviathon who mistook the signal for a mating call, and it has now come and carried the ship away...

To stop the creature before the ship gets humped, they reverse the field on the aerial transmit some of Rimmer's Hammond organ music, which causes the leviathon to drop them in an alternative reality and slither away in agony...

In the alternate reality, they meet their alternate selves, who are all actors in a tv show called red dwarf.

And they have to figure out a way of getting home, and Rimmer suggests using some of the props from the studio, argueing that 'since we are real in this world, the props are real in our world'

The ask Holly for help, who has a little think and eventually says he doesn't know. But the alternate Holly from the props cupboard, a program running on a BBC-B computer comes up with a solution, and communicates it to Kryton.

Meanwhile, the leviathon returns, bitter and spurned, and begins trying to destroy the crew with it's multidimensional plasma weapon.

The actors get killed one by one by the creature, while Kryton gathers up materials to build the solution. He uses the spare circuits from his twin, to build a second aerial to reverse the effects of the first, although nobody understands it but him.

Holding the device, which looks distinctly phallic, Kryton says they now need to return to red dwarf and install this on the ship.

The two aerials when switched on cause the leviathon to explode, and the ship moves back to normal space.

They finish up wondering why they got transported back home and Kryton explains it is because the leviation was erased from time and never existed.

Meanwhile Rimmer has smuggled back an object from the alternate reality and when he is alone he take it out of his pocket and looks at it schemingly.
 
Two half hours of this show are better than most of series VIII though. Bringing the crew back with the ship was a colossal mistake, and Mac McDonald etc. just weren't funny in the slightest.

It's been very successful for Dave however, so I wouldn't be surprised to see more Red Dwarf down the line. Plus the actors (barring Chloe Annett who's written out for some reason) seem to want to do more, but that's not surprising as it must pay better than Scrapheap Challenge/Coronation Street/MI High/train documentaries.
 
Didn't Rob Llewellyn leave Scrapheap last year?

And Craig Charles has apparently been on a mission to get booted off Corrie ever since he started on it!
 
Didn't Rob Llewellyn leave Scrapheap last year?

And Craig Charles has apparently been on a mission to get booted off Corrie ever since he started on it!
According to IMDb Robert Llewellyn left Scrapheap in 2005, but wiki says last year.
Apparently Craig Charles signed a 3 year contract last year, so he can't be in too much of a hurry to get out of it.
 
True. He did have the disclipinary issues though - drugs and adultery I think. That sort of thing never goes down well with soap bosses... which is ironic considering most of their plots revolve around drugs and adultery.
 
True. He did have the disclipinary issues though - drugs and adultery I think. That sort of thing never goes down well with soap bosses... which is ironic considering most of their plots revolve around drugs and adultery.
That was about 5 years ago now, wasn't it? But you're right, and he did basically call the audience thick a few months back.
 
WTF did they do to Red D, and how come the actors look terrible in these new episodes, but when on Breakfast TV the other morning they all look like the years had been kind to them......what happened there.

And i wont go into the RD/Corrie cross over nonsense....These new episodes make hyper-drive look like a Hollywood blockbuster.

What the hell happened?
 
True. He did have the disclipinary issues though - drugs and adultery I think. That sort of thing never goes down well with soap bosses... which is ironic considering most of their plots revolve around drugs and adultery.
That was about 5 years ago now, wasn't it? But you're right, and he did basically call the audience thick a few months back.

To be fair, he's not far off.
According to the News Of The World, Charles claimed that he can no longer regularly attend football matches with his two daughters because he is mocked so much.
He also allegedly stated that he believes the programme does not attract the same class of viewer as his cult BBC series Red Dwarf, on which he plays Dave Lister.
"I can go [to matches] a bit, but I get so much stick now, and you don't want your kids to hear that. I try and go in disguise," Charles is quoted as saying. "It's especially since I've been on Corrie, and since I started an affair with Liz McDonald.
"I've never had any problems like that with Red Dwarf fans, they're generally intelligent people. Maybe not so much with Corrie, it's kind of lowest common denominator stuff! Even so, the show gets 11 million a night - you can't argue with that."

:lol: He's right with saying it's the lowest common denominator thing though. Like he says there's over 10m fans, there's bound to be a lot of idiots in there.
 
I also see no problem with what he said there.

I hope this Corrie thing doesn't last the whole episode, i've never even watched an episode of that all the way through so it isn't going to mean much to me.
 
What's funny is that I remember Richard Briggs saying the same thing about B5 fans and Days of our Lives fans.
 
It's weird, for some reason I suddenly thought of series VIII, and the hardest I've ever laughed at Red Dwarf. I don't remember exactly what episode it is, but it's when they have that virus that eats everything, and Rimmer and Lister keep going back to the Captain's office because they keep doing things wrong, then the next time they go, they're both nude and hairless, which then goes on to Captain Hollister. I'm pretty sure the episode was 'Pete'.

Of course, in my youth, when Red Dwarf episodes were brand new, I almost wet myself when I saw Starbug fly right up a rats ass.
 
It's weird, for some reason I suddenly thought of series VIII, and the hardest I've ever laughed at Red Dwarf. I don't remember exactly what episode it is, but it's when they have that virus that eats everything, and Rimmer and Lister keep going back to the Captain's office because they keep doing things wrong, then the next time they go, they're both nude and hairless, which then goes on to Captain Hollister. I'm pretty sure the episode was 'Pete'.

Of course, in my youth, when Red Dwarf episodes were brand new, I almost wet myself when I saw Starbug fly right up a rats ass.
Yep, it was Pete. I watched that last night.
 
I'm not sure which my favourites were... a little think...

Backwards was one of the funnier ones from the early series.

As was the one where they were catching up with the future.. was it called Future echoes??

I thought Legion was funny, where Kryton kept hitting Rimmer over the head with stuff.
The one with the Riviera Kid.

The one where Kryton got waste compacted... was it Psirens?

And that Horsemen of the apolocalypse :)

Inquisitor was okay.

The one where Rimmer is imprisoned.. was it called Justice? With the funny shoes. :)


They've had some fun episodes over the years. :)
 
Dimension Jump, the first episode with Ace Rimmer, remains my all-time favourite episode. :guffaw:

Although I really loved the episodes of the first season when it was just The Odd Couple.... In Spaaaaaaace.
 
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