Fixed that for you.
Red Dawn remake in the works...
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Fixed that for you.
I'm going to assume that this is a serious question, and answer it as if I was involved in the overall story creation...
Russia works behind the scenes to get the nations of OPEC to follow Russia in playing games with the supply of oil to hurt the US and Europe. This also puts pressure on China which puts China against this "oil conglomerate". Now Russia starts to funnel military arms and supplies, including medium range tactical weapons into south American countries who have a strong anti-US sentiment, also funneling supplies and funds to the drug cartels.
Now Russian involvement within OPEC causes trouble there, and causes OPEC to disband. Some of the oil nations of the world stay loyal to the US while the majority shift following Russia, including Iran.
Russia cuts a deal with Iran to supply them with a few Nuclear/Dirty bombs. Iran sends these bombs with a few radicals to infiltrate the US through the southern border of the US from the south american countries friendly with Russia and the drug cartels.
In a coordinated event those bombs are all set to go off at the same time in the five major metro areas in the US: New York, DC, Chicago, LA, and Miami. They may also strike a few key military targets such as norad's command center at Cheyenne Mountain and NorthCom's headquarters at Peterson airforce base. THe pentagon would be taken/damaged by the DC nuck strike in theory...
The US military is spread thin as it is with the majority of the forces located in the middle east. After the "terror" strike on the US, Iranian forces would go full offensive against the US forces in Iraq. South american forces would come up from the loyal south american countries with Russian advisors to coordinate, while Russian forces move into Alaska. Both to secure Oil assets, in the Gulf region in the south, and in Alaska and western Canada in the north.
All in all it's a war for oil, not a war of ideologies. Whoever controls the world oil, controls the world...
How's that for a senario.
See Don Cheadle's film, Traitor.
Red Dawn was so gawdawful. Kids with guns in The Reactionary's Wet Dream.
Another John Milius attempt to pass off jingoism as patriotism.
A remake now is six years too late. The "terroists are in your glove compartment" political fear tactics have dissipated far too much.
--Ted
I don't think it's "gawdawful". I mean the fact that the director had obtained the help and input of former Secretary of State and NATO commander General Alexander Haig to create the back story/scenario, and that the plot was based on CIA and War College studies of US weaknesses at the time.
That it was clearly shown that the History teacher at their high school was a bit of a "military history tactics" buff, teaching the kids the famous tactics used in battles by the likes of Genghis Khan and others.
The kids also had small unit skills and an understanding of how to work together with basic tactics and objectives from their history of football. They also had a descent understanding of marksmanship and woodsman skill sets.
They also had the mindset of survivors.
Overall, it is far from an unbelievable story. In fact it's a very believable story.
Got a deadly toy
To brainwash your boy
An egocentric muscle thug
Kicks butt on screen like a brat outa hell
Bullshitter in the Indochina shop
Pull the string in his back, we win the war
That we never should
have started at all
A cabbage patch terrorist to call our own
Who rewrites history with a machine gun
Don't think about it--KILL IT
That's what we teach your child
RAMBOZO, RAMBOZO, RAMBOZO--the Clown
RAMBOZO, RAMBOZO, RAMBOZO--the Clown!
To draft age kids
It sure looks like fun--
"Kill them all
And let God sort 'em out!"
Like video games--no mess
Just fuel for a mass lapse of common sense
You can be Don Quixote
We'll dice you with our windmill blades
Brawn over brain
Means a happy ending
G.I. Joe in the cereal bowl
Grey shrapnel-flavored chewing gum
Mass murder ain't just painless
Now we've made it cute
RAMBOZO, RAMBOZO, RAMBOZO--the Clown
RAMBOZO, RAMBOZO, RAMBOZO--the Clown!
War is sexy
War is fun
Iron Ego
Red Dawn
Be a wolverine. You'll rule the hills
Just get some guns and Cheerios
Any kid can conquer Libya
Just steal a fighter plane!
Look who came home in a wheelchair
V.A. Hospital, they don't care
"We're the machine
You're just a tool."
Who fell for the myth
of
RAMBOZO, RAMBOZO, RAMBOZO--the Clown
RAMBOZO, RAMBOZO, RAMBOZO--the Clown!
RAMBOZO, RAMBOZO, RAMBOZO--the Clown!
RAMBOZO! RAMBOZO! RAMBOZO!
--The Dead Kennedys, "Rambozo the Clown" (1986--but as the saying goes, "now more than ever")
To brainwash your boy
An egocentric muscle thug
Kicks butt on screen like a brat outa hell
Bullshitter in the Indochina shop
Pull the string in his back, we win the war
That we never should
have started at all
A cabbage patch terrorist to call our own
Who rewrites history with a machine gun
Don't think about it--KILL IT
That's what we teach your child
RAMBOZO, RAMBOZO, RAMBOZO--the Clown
RAMBOZO, RAMBOZO, RAMBOZO--the Clown!
To draft age kids
It sure looks like fun--
"Kill them all
And let God sort 'em out!"
Like video games--no mess
Just fuel for a mass lapse of common sense
You can be Don Quixote
We'll dice you with our windmill blades
Brawn over brain
Means a happy ending
G.I. Joe in the cereal bowl
Grey shrapnel-flavored chewing gum
Mass murder ain't just painless
Now we've made it cute
RAMBOZO, RAMBOZO, RAMBOZO--the Clown
RAMBOZO, RAMBOZO, RAMBOZO--the Clown!
War is sexy
War is fun
Iron Ego
Red Dawn
Be a wolverine. You'll rule the hills
Just get some guns and Cheerios
Any kid can conquer Libya
Just steal a fighter plane!
Look who came home in a wheelchair
V.A. Hospital, they don't care
"We're the machine
You're just a tool."
Who fell for the myth
of
RAMBOZO, RAMBOZO, RAMBOZO--the Clown
RAMBOZO, RAMBOZO, RAMBOZO--the Clown!
RAMBOZO, RAMBOZO, RAMBOZO--the Clown!
RAMBOZO! RAMBOZO! RAMBOZO!
--The Dead Kennedys, "Rambozo the Clown" (1986--but as the saying goes, "now more than ever")
"I...would like...to feed your fingertips....to the Wolverines."
Not often I see DK on this board. That was probably greater reflection than this movie or any possible remake could deserve.
On behalf of the Original Fans of the Original Not-Ready-for-Prime-Time-Players, thanks!
--Ted
Fixed that for you.
I hope Alfonso Cuarón gets to direct
Huh? That isn't even a complete sentence.
You're right. There should be more DKs.
As far as remaking Red Dawn goes: Why?
Seriously, remaking this piece of Reagan-era jingoism makes even less sense and has a even smaller chance of succeeding than did the rework of The Manchurian Candidate a few years ago. Red Dawn had a limited audience then and it will be even more so now. I see a box-office loser, if it even gets that far.
I did read it. The rest makes sense. The one I quoted amounts to:
"The fact that X (the director had obtained the help and input of former Secretary of State and NATO commander General Alexander Haig to create the back story/scenario) and Y (that the plot was based on CIA and War College studies of US weaknesses at the time)."
The fact that X and Y... what? It isn't communicating any point.
X and Y add together to Z. Z = The plot point of a russian invasion is not bad because it was based on research of the situation of the time. The plot was possible. Unlikely, but possible.
The post was a list of point saying "the film is not gawdaweful because..." Z is one of those points.
WOLVERINES!!!
But seriously, they could remake it pretty easily. Since Russia is doing that dance in Georgia over the petroleum pipeline, it'd be easy to make them the bad guys yet again. Who knows, in the fictional world of the movie, maybe we reduce our military forces due to something or another, and the Russkies come over the Bering Strait with their mind set on Alaskan oil? Dunno if you could stretch that attack southward to the CONUS though. That'd be a long stretch of logistics.
AG
But seriously, they could remake it pretty easily. Since Russia is doing that dance in Georgia over the petroleum pipeline, it'd be easy to make them the bad guys yet again. Who knows, in the fictional world of the movie, maybe we reduce our military forces due to something or another, and the Russkies come over the Bering Strait with their mind set on Alaskan oil? Dunno if you could stretch that attack southward to the CONUS though. That'd be a long stretch of logistics.
AG
If I were doing this, I would be shameless. I would totally go for the overwrought Islamophobic thing. I'd poll the Usual Suspects of TNZ for ideas, the script would write itself.
Hey if you're going to do something, go for it all the way, or don't bother. Politically correct sensibilities of any degree will sink this sucker faster than the Titanic. This is all about pandering to the basest popular paranoia, not about enlightening anyone. I would make 24 look like it was written by Michael Moore.
Hey if you're going to do something, go for it all the way, or don't bother. Politically correct sensibilities of any degree will sink this sucker faster than the Titanic. This is all about pandering to the basest popular paranoia, not about enlightening anyone. I would make 24 look like it was written by Michael Moore.
Too much explanation, too much thinking. Think with your gut, that's what'll sell it. Your gut should tell you "forget the fuckin Russkies, go with the Muslims." If your gut says anything else, you need a new gut.
It's a jug full of gasoline. All it takes is one match to relight it. The only question is whether Hollywood greed will overcome their scruples - well that's obvious - the real question is whether they're smart enough to see their way clear to a bundle of cash by doing this thing "right."
That would probably be a sound business decision.
But if you were truly shameless, you wouldn't remake Red Dawn.
You'd remake...
