I don't have the slightest idea what you're asking me. I'm not selling any models.
Recycling starship models
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I don't have the slightest idea what you're asking me. I'm not selling any models.
I know this is borderline off-topic, but here's a vintage case of recycling for you:
The Shape of Things to Come, a 1979 TV movie, had a miniature made in part from the AMT Space Station K-7 kit:
The Shape of Things to Come, a 1979 TV movie, had a miniature made in part from the AMT Space Station K-7 kit:
My main concern is having ships that fit into the century they're in.
We're going to have to agree to disagree on that, because I find it ridiculous, myself. The Hathaway is 80 years old and it's a heap of scrap used for training. The Enterprise was decomissioned after 40 years, and Morrow said 20 in the Search for Spock like it was ancient.
I'm sorry, did you get lost and end up in this thread ?
I know this is borderline off-topic, but here's a vintage case of recycling for you:
The Shape of Things to Come, a 1979 TV movie, had a miniature made in part from the AMT Space Station K-7 kit:
Nice. IIRC, the shuttle from the old V mini-series was heavily modified to become the TNG/DS9 version of the Anteries-class freighter.
Okay...is "greatly despise" better?
Actually, my hatred doesn't stem so much from the ships they used, but rather the ridiculously high registry numbers they were given. Having Excelsiors with 4XXXX regs and Mirandas with 3XXXX regs was a bit much, IMHO.
I never had a problem with that. They're proven designs. I really don't get people's complaints about those ships.
Yes, I'm sure we all would've loved it if Operation Return or the First Battle of Chin'toka was the space equivalent of the Battle of Minas Tirith, but even on First Contact, a lack of $ has hamstrung them.
Well, what can you do, when the model's out of commission?
I was thinking more in terms of ships used by different aliens, but fine, let's look at the Pegasus for a moment:
It's admittedly an awkward line, but I never took Pressman's description of the Pegasus as a "prototype ship" to mean that the ship itself was a prototype in the way the Defiant or Prometheus were. It was simply a ship assigned to serve as a testbed for new technologies. It didn't necessarily have to be a new design to fill that role.
Yet that same movie features the Grissom, a ship with a registry MUCH lower than that of the Enterprise still in service. If starships with registries in the 1700 range were being commissioned in the mid-2240's, the Grissom could potentially be thirty or forty years older.
"Relics" seemed to suggest many systems hadn't changed since Scotty's time and that ships as old as the Jenolen could still be in service.
Well THAT's the problem: why is the Ambassador out of commission and the Miranda and Oberth not ?
Perhaps in the case of the Constitution Class and Constellation Class, they had reached the end of their development life. The Enterprise was lauched in 2245, but the Constitution Class itself might have been in operation for years or decades prior to that. So by the time 2293 rolls around and the Ent-A is to be decomissioned the basic design could be 60 years old.
The Excelsior Classes we saw might only have been build 20 years ago. Or perhaps the Excelsior Class was easier to upragde and update.
thank you for telling me this if you know any one who do have a model for sale of the size i asked about that is under $250.00 please get a hold of me please.
it looks like i will need some detals from the models. like the line and how far a part there are.
it looks like i will need some detals from the models. like the line and how far a part there are.
It's a possibility. I've always thought that the Enterprise was the first ship of the class (the name "Constitution" need not refer to an actual ship, but to a design), which would be supported by the registry (1st ship of the 17th design, I'm not sure if I read that somewhere or not) and by ST09 which seems to imply that Enterprise is the first of a new line of ships.
The problem is that it makes Starfleet look desperate. Here's the Dominion and Cardassians with state-of-the-art battleships, and the vast majority of ships Starfleet can throw at them are just Excelsiors and Mirandas?
I'm well aware of the budget problems of the time. Nothing makes me more aware of that than the recycled battle footage used in the final frikkin' episode of DS9. But if there was an opportunity to redo all of that...say, with a remastering project...I see no reason why the battle couldn't be completely different-looking and utilize different ships.
That was the real-world reason. What was the in-universe reason?
That still doesn't account for the ship only being five years older than the Enterprise-D and still being an Oberth.
That's implying that registries are chronological (or at least chronological during the TMP era), when there's no evidence that's the case.
Ships like the Jenolan still are in service, as the U.S.S. Nash frequently docked at DS9. However, there's a difference between an older ship still in service and an older design still being produced 75 years later. I doubt the Sydney class was still being produced in the 24th century.
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The Ambassador's non-presence could be explained by the combination of a limited line (the Constitution or Galaxy of its generation) combined with the fact that they were better suited to the various tasks that Starfleet still would have needed to handle behind the lines even in a time of war. Such ships were probably few and stretched very thin in those days. After all, if one ship, such as the Enterprise, could find itself having to handle crisis after crisis week in and week out in peacetime, you can't expect that all of those crises would coincidentally stop occurring just because there's a war on at the moment. (e.g., we only learned after the fact that there'd been a war going on with the Cardassians during the first two or three seasons of TNG.) That would also be where the Intrepids and the Sovereigns were at (including the Ent-E).
And no, I'm not selling any models, either.
And no, I'm not selling any models, either.
The model was damaged while in storage, sometime after its last televised use as the Yamaguchi in "Emissary." The model was going to be refurbished by ILM for the final scene of ST: Generations, but once the damage was uncovered, this didn't happen. It was only repaired once it was to be sold at auction.
It was one of my favourite TNG-era originals.
Same here. The Ambassador and Constellation classes were my favorite TNG ships. Yes, it still pains me that because of circumstance, we saw tons of Excelsiors and no Ambassadors, when it logically should have been the other way around.
the Ambassador is not out of commission: there is at least one Ambassador clas ship in the battle of 359 (minute 0:53 ):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMa_SUDhn7E
Which is the last time, production wise we ever saw an Ambassador class. The last time, continuity wise was TNG's Redemption Part 2. And even that, was just stock footage from Yesterday's Enterprise.
Actually that's a completely different model. The Nebula model didn't premiere until the next season's "The Wounded". None of the parts are really the same as the Galaxy. Half the windows on the saucer are missing, custom nacelle pylons, and the engineering hull is much shorter, stouter, and has an oddly-shaped deflector.
The Melbourne was one of three or so kitbashed Nebula study models, made from rearranged Galaxy-class kits. That particular one has a full-length Galaxy engineering hull and an additional pair of little Galaxy nacelles back on the fantail. EAS has a good article on it here. http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/proto-nebula.htm You might have to copy-paste the address because of hotlinking protection.
