Recasting BY ANY OTHER NAME for contemporary audiences

[Rowdy Roddy McDowall]

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[Neopeius]

Contemporary 2021 or contemporary 1967?

 

[Metryq]

The Critical Drinker for Scotty
"This mornin' while stirrin' coffee inta ma whiskey..."

 

[Metryq]

The Critical Drinker is a funny Scotsman on YouTube who reviews movies and TV shows. (The above is a quote from the start of one of his reviews.) He is also Will Jordan, author of the popular Ryan Drake series and other thrillers.

He hasn't been kind to the more recent Trek offerings.

 

[publiusr]

I just want CGI to depict the true forms of the Kelvins…elder things I guess.

 

[Qonundrum]

Would you believe Don Adams as Dr McCoy? Now there's a twist... but if you disagree, all I can say is "Sorry about that."

For Chekov, let's go for the low-hanging goodies and bring in Davy Jones. He can sing how the garden of Eden was right outside of Russia instead. (That's a compliment, he's rather a great Broadway act... )

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(No matter how you filmed it, to edit that via the technology of 1968 would be an impressive pain...)

Naah, he'd make a great take on Kirk. "Star Trek: The Musical". Toni Basil for Kelinda, too...

Rojan was a bit stoic - a fairly solid baddie as a kid, but what might another actor do to sprinkle in a sense of menace or unpredictability to up the ante? So, yeah, seconded on Jack Nicholson. Jack Nicholson would likely have been brilliant as the lead Kelvin Rojan. Already a brilliant writer under the right conditions, his acting range is sufficiently phenomenal to make anything on paper uniquely and truly shine... no pun even remotely intended, hehehe...

Best of all: Someone in this Phase II test footage would be ideal as Spock:

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(Yup. Robert Reed is doing his best Spock impression here, the only thing missing are the ears... )

 

[Qonundrum]

I just want CGI to depict the true forms of the Kelvins…elder things I guess.

After seeing CGI Hulk fling Loki around like a cartoon, seeing a composited image of balled-up tinfoil hanging from a string floating up and down (via strings) in front of a blue screen would still look more physically convincing than interacting CGI with real life figures... Which isn't to say CGI hasn't come a long way, it has and can still get the job done well enough... mixing CGI and real life models is a lot trickier, though...)

 

[Qonundrum]

That's not from the Roddenberry Vault....or is it? I don't recall that on the BluRay.

Not that I am aware of. It might be, though the costumes in that differ from the other leaked filmed test footage where the black undershirt and command color had a more distinctive angle... but it definitely has not the wrong look, the sort of drama that Star Trek 2 TWOK would refine, and so on...

I like Toni Basil. She was good with Davey in HEAD, and in FIVE EASY PIECES as well with Jack. Inspired choice. So Jack would certainly get jealous about it, grab Kirky, grab his phaser and snarl ''I want to you hold it between your knees.''

After watching that fight scene at the end I just realized there's very little stopping Spock from neck-pinching Rojan, or even Kelinda first, who's not interfering in the fracas either.

I blame that on 1960s "televised stage play" way of doing things. It's definitely not the more "natural acting" of more recent times, and even as a kid (in general) I was wondering why character bickering was so clean cut where one actor cuts off before the other starts... I recall one instance, from a show in the 70s (not "Logan's Run"?) where a character being cut off continues briefly and it feels almost revolutionary.

But noting TOS in general, you think McCoy would be the first to show such a sign of exasperation and not Rojan or Jack Torrance (as in "torrential", hehe)... if it wasn't for The Enemy(tm) getting bored of their pompous bickering first then we'd have seen McCoy pulling that face instead of his more frequent eye-rolling shtick of joyous derision...

 

[Qonundrum]

I always wondered what McCoy was about to say to Spock, and why he chose that moment to confront him after Rojan's surrender order. Will the world ever know?

Would this LOGAN'S RUN episode be the Harlan Ellison ''Crypt?'' If not, perhaps the actor or the director ordered the overlap. Now if Robert Altman had directed TOS, it'd sound like Kirk and Chekov in OBSESSION. That too was different. Had I directed, most of Shat's lines would be steamrolled by Spock, Scott, and probably McCoy and Uhura as well. I just like them better. It's not a prejudice against men in yellow, I assure you.

Kirk had so many lines that it was silly for the show to end up as "the big three" as opposed to the ensemble series that early season 1 had striven to do. Okay, "the big three" certainly works in its own ways (as a metaphor for the brain's endless conflict of "intellect vs emotion with the conscious referee in the middle having to balance out the other two") but so many episodes would be different, with some clunkers even being better off, had they done something different than the usual "big three" stuff.

I don't recall and am going to have to rewatch the series - Crypt was one of the better stories, though "Man out of Time" is certainly the most chilling...

If Richard ''Cactus'' Pryor played Security Guard Shea, who would survive, who would you select for Yeoman Thompson, who would not? Don't say Nancy Kulp. She's overqualified.

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As Miss Hathaway might say, "Chief!!"

But, would you believe, Donna Douglas? She had a few good roles back in the day as well as the immortal Ellie Mae Clampett... this would be more a bit part, unfortunately, when contrasting next to Ellie... but her near-immortal role in "The Twilight Zone" would be the contender for "variation on a theme" (shock moment aimed at audience regarding character revelation/fate), noting Kirk's response to Thompson being turned into a D&D cube then crushed and the high concept works because of Rojan's rather eloquent description of what the cube represents; a fantastic choice of words by Fontana and well-acted by Warren Stevens as well as setting up a nice "get out of plot free" card; there's no way TOS would show the slaughter of 400 crewmembers... There's rather a lot of fantastic dialogue sprinkled in the story covering the human condition, even if the tone is a bit dated (or, if nothing else, aimed at kids of the time...)

 

[Poltargyst]

ELVIS as Spock. Why? Because he's ELVIS.