Well you’re certainly not getting that.
Reasons not to make a Pike show
- Thread starter Mudd
- Start date
And this is where I will disagree. This is why I struggle with fandom so much is the reaction to people who are shouting is to shout back and tell them to "Fuck off."
I'm sorry, and I know its hard, but this misses the whole blasted point of Trek. Trek was about inclusion, putting aside differences to work together, even if it was ever perfect. But, I am just so frustrated by the fact that different points of view cannot be acknowledged, including from the production team. Because, I'll bet that they don't hate Star Trek or are working to anger all the fans. I love the "Berman and Braga" jokes on SFDebris, but even I don't think they were trying to make the worst possible product.
I think Star Trek's table is big enough for all points of view.
You realize trailers have always "settled for the B-effect" right? The trailers for the recent Planet of the Apes movies used work-in-progress CG for the apes as opposed to the much superior quality CG we had in the final movie, The Walking Dead trailers a few years ago used a very quickly inserted digital tiger for Ezekiel's pet Shiva compared to the much better version seen in the episodes themselves. Even in Star Trek, the first trailer for First Contact was 90% recycled footage from the shows and little from the actual movie. It's how trailers are done, and these examples certainly did not hurt the movies/show they were representing.
I think that Boris does realize it. I think they are more concerned with how it reflects on Trek as a whole.
I personally am with you regarding trailers. Largely because they are usually cut together but a team who isn't actually apart of the day to day production of the product. Its just marketing and carries as much weight as I put in to most ads-none.
given anson mount's clear apathy to doing a full series in canada, this seems like the best thing to hope for.
Hell, in some cases the trailer is handled by an outside company hired by the studio.
You know, that's fair. For me, I get massively frustrated because of the nitpicking that I wish fans would just enjoy the larger picture. i know it's the MO of a lot of Trekkies, but, sometimes it just really grinds on me.
Oh, it grinds on me too. Trust me, it gets very depressing. Not because I want to be right (I'm married, so you know how that might go...
), but because I truly want people to have enjoyment in their entertainment. And, I don't see a lot of enjoyment right now.Which is hard because I am loving this large tent effort from Star Trek, and am looking forward to people who like Picard to have Picard.
Again, none of those examples (as far as I can tell) portray something ingrained so differently that a viewer could take one look and say “Wait, that looks wrong, especially given the old uniform.”
It doesn’t occur to you that these things are like careless spelling and punctuation — not as important as the message, obviously, but still distracting, annoying and avoidable? The whole point of unified spelling is to let the reader focus on content.
You don't think spliced together footage of Voyager and the Borg cube from TBOBW in a theatrical trailer for a TNG movie looks wrong?
I always hold out hope where Trek is concerned. Been watching since I was four years old.
Really, really hope not.
When we have the content, the actual book, as it were, then I'll focus on it. I don't have it right now.
To me, complaining about the trailer amounts to complaining about a misspelling on a backcover of a book that I found without the book. I have no context, no story, but I'm focused on castigating the proofreading who misspelled that one word.
It's very confusing.
This is more like reading an exclusive excerpt and seeing that the writer keeps spelling bat’leth without the apostrophe.
It's spitting into the wind at this point.
My friend, we are just going to have to disagree and leave it at that. If you want to continue to complain about an unfinished product, then go right ahead.
Not necessarily, since reuse of stock footage was par for the course (eg. the BoP explosion in GEN), and that’s assuming one pays attention to a fleeting moment.
They know how to run a show, clearly, as there have been two seasons of it?
I think that's debatable, as they've went through multiple showrunners and writers during the first two seasons. Just because something is a success, doesn't mean it is ran well behind-the-scenes.
Not really, since the author (in this instance the production team) are not responsible for the excerpt, necessarily. The CGI rendering may have been down by the trailer team, who usually is a 3rd party and not in house.
You may not have aimed it at anyone directly, but it is clear that the discussion flow is such that criticism of avoidable errors eventually results in a chat about “toxic fandom” and lumping everyone together regardless of topic. The end result is that it very much discourages criticism in favor of settling for the good-enough, which seems to be a widespread position here (and I don’t think people would mind too much if the final series cemented this impression from the trailer). Let’s handle ST with kid gloves, let’s not talk about its faults too much, since who knows, maybe our TrekBBS posts are so influential we’ll have to live with no ongoing Star Trek and how bad would that be?
Last edited:
