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RE: Scotty's role

MadBaggins

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I don't think making Scotty an instructor at the accademy whne Kirk is taking the Koybashi Maroon test violates established canon. Remember, it was never said before that Scotty WASN'T an instructor or that he served on any ships before the Enterprise. Perhaps he took the teaching job right after academy because he was ascared of space. It happens. Maybe there will be a scene where Kirk talks Scotty out of being scared of space and says "you are the best damn engineer in the STarfleet, come with me to the stars" and he does. I don't know what everyone is getting so worked up about.
 
Excuse me, but what are you talking about?

Where has it been stated that Scotty will be an instructor at Starfleet Academy?

:confused:
 
Well, Scotty was an instructor in the abandoned Star Trek: First Adventure script by Harve Bennett and David Loughry which was reviewed awhile back by AICN. But I haven't seen anything about that concept being put into place on Abrams' Trek.
 
Scotty was already in space before Kirk even went to the academy. I guess he could've come back and been an instructor... It seems out of character for him to serve on a ship for 6 or 7 years only to return to the academy to teach.
 
MadBaggins said:
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With Simon Pegg in the role, I assume his function is as comedy relief.

With Simon Pegg in the role, I assume the comedy will not be funny.

With Simon Pegg in the role, I assume the Scottish accent might be more authentic. He is English, maybe he's been to Scotland.

With Simon Pegg in the role, it shows that the director considers this a relatively important part, even if it's small.
 
But you assume the comedy will not be funny. Interesting. Do you think maybe he'll be a comedy incompetent instructor who Kirk has to help out all the time? Perhaps that's why he'll end up on the Enterprise.

I think Simon Pegg is from the north of England, right on the border with Scotland and Wales.
 
MadBaggins said:
But you assume the comedy will not be funny. Interesting. Do you think maybe he'll be a comedy incompetent instructor who Kirk has to help out all the time? Perhaps that's why he'll end up on the Enterprise.

I think Simon Pegg is from the north of England, right on the border with Scotland and Wales.
:guffaw: :guffaw: :thumbsup:
 
Scotty was already in space with Pike, though, wasn't he?

Of course, he might have been between majors, because he was sporting a yellow shirt back then.

So if it's between THE CAGE and WNMHGB, is he a prof's assistant?

Also, it could be like that annoying commercial for a local college:

"No, he gave all that up because he liked to work on starships."
 
ITL said:
MadBaggins said:
But you assume the comedy will not be funny. Interesting. Do you think maybe he'll be a comedy incompetent instructor who Kirk has to help out all the time? Perhaps that's why he'll end up on the Enterprise.

I think Simon Pegg is from the north of England, right on the border with Scotland and Wales.
:guffaw: :guffaw: :thumbsup:

Please, ITL, humor a non native English speaking person. Does the phrase "to talk out of one's ass" apply here? ;)
 
johnconner said:
Scotty was already in space with Pike, though, wasn't he?

Of course, he might have been between majors, because he was sporting a yellow shirt back then.

So if it's between THE CAGE and WNMHGB, is he a prof's assistant?

Also, it could be like that annoying commercial for a local college:

"No, he gave all that up because he liked to work on starships."
(1) There is no indication that Montgomery Scott was aboard Enterprise at any point prior to WNMHGB. There is also no indication that he wasn't. I, personally, like the idea that he was the older, experienced officer who sort of resented this "young lad" coming in as Captain at first. They did this in "All Those Years Ago" in the DC Comics annual, and it really worked for me.

(2) It is VERY VERY VERY COMMON PRACTICE for officers in the service to be reassigned regularly throughout their careers. It is also MANDATORY that, when selected for promotion to certain levels of rank, one is REQUIRED to return for advanced training in your new field of specialization, or for your new levels of responsibility. Thus, it makes perfect sense for lieutenant Montgomery Scott to have been at the Academy, and very likely having some teaching responsibilities, at some point, and it would be perfectly reasonable for him to have been there when Kirk was attending his own Command School (remember, that being at least six years after Kirk matriculated from the Academy and with him holding the rank of Lieutenant (promotable) as well.)

My only quibble with Scotty being an instructor who knew Kirk at the Academy is that... once again... that leads us to the "it's a small, small galaxy" problem that so much of latter-day Trek seemed to fall into. It makes much more logical sense for him to have been an engineering officer, but not CHIEF engineer, under Pike, and having been promoted to the rank of Chief upon, say, the retirement or promotion of his predecessor.

It just works better for the "I can believe this could really happen" circuit inside my brain. ;)
 
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