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Rate the Final Episode for each Trek Series

TOS - Undiscovered Country is the final bow for me and it's also my favorite Trek film! Five stars!

TNG - All Good Things is the standard to which all other finales are held. Five stars.

DS9 - What You Leave Behind felt a little forced and rushed but I felt that way about all of season seven. Three and a half stars.

VOY - Endgame is just wrong. Janeway would never travel back and change things in my opinion. A boring story that simply got Voyager home... which we wanted to see by season four anyway! Two and a half stars.

ENT - Ugh! Shite! One star.
 
Dukat's lamentably stupid S7 arc.

I'll think of Dukat's development in season 7 as a sort of time capsule for you to open up some day and discover and appreciate, years from now. The end in the cave wasn't very good, and the start of the season really wasn't either, but despite DS9 treading too close to "magic" territory for a SF show, with the P'a Wraiths (?), the rest with Dukat was amazing.

ST-- Turnabout Intruder... a bad end. Sexist and clumsy. However, since the regular season ended with a great sendoff, "All Our Yesterdays", and since they went through their summer of reruns before showing just one new one (TI) then leaving the air... I've always felt as if TI was a sort of 4th season premiere, for a (terrible) season that never happened.

Therefore, I think of that beautiful final moment of All Our Yesterdays as the end of ST, that tragic, fatalistic winking-out of the planet.... and those responsible for replacing it with that big showy crude CGI effect ought to be in jail.

And I don't like Undiscovered Country. If I chose a Trek film as the original Trek's finale, it would be Generations, where we actually do get to say a goodbye, and which is a much better film, to me. I forget if Spock was last seen in UC or Reunification. Scotty-- Relics, right? That was better than UC too. Chekov? New Voyages?

Nemesis... need to see it again, but didn't seem like Next Gen to me. All Good Things... a lot better than the average later NG episode. Very good, except for the obvious over-reliance of Berman on solving all their problems with beams of colored light, especially from the reflector dish, or whatever they called it.

In Nemesis, that disease doesn't seem to be affecting Picard much yet... unless it is in there and I forgot.

DS9... great. They get into Dominion headquarters in an easy "TV" way, but it's still the best finale.

Voyager... Endgame-- pretty good. Why complain, nice character moments, two different homecomings (I love Voyager in sky over San Francisco), too late to complain about excess time travel at this point, at least this was better than most instances in Voyager....

Enterprise--- who says you can't give zero stars?

All Our Yesterdays, What You Leave Behind plus the story before it (as a 2-parter), then AGT, then Endgame.
 
Angel4576 said:
Picard was grateful to Q for giving him the opportunity to save the AQ, but without Q, it wouldn't have been in danger in the first place....
It was the Continuum who ordered the destruction of humanity. Q was just the one carrying out that order. But it was Q, because of his fondness and respect for Picard, who gave Picard the helping hand he needed to solve the mystery and save mankind. That's why he was grateful.
 
Turnabout Intruder - ** 1/2 Decent episode, not really a finale though, and the somewhat sexist nature detracts from the otherwise fun plot

The Undiscovered Country - **** The best of the finales, and the best of the feature films

All Good Things - *** Good, if overrated, finale. Ties in well to the series' premiere, but the switching between three time frames doesn't gell as often as it should.

What You Leave Behind - *** 1/2 Excellent all around. I even liked the turn with Dukat. A minor weakness is the pacing, which is a bit odd at times (for example, it appears Dukat and Winn spent the entire final Dominion War battle sitting around inside the fire caves), but that's nitpicky.

Endgame - * 1/2 Earns its points for its excellent technical works. Everything else is a travesty with no lasting impact, even based on the series' standards.

I still haven't seen the final episode for Enterprise. Nothing about that series motivates me to watch it.
 
I'm still a little pissed about Voyager's ending. I was in college at the time and had to rush to Best Buy to buy a laptop (it's a long story how i ended up there) about an hour and a half before the finale was to air and I remember I even took a cab back home instead of the subway because I didn't want to be late. And then Admiral Janeway comes on screen! And only a few minutes of them in the Alpha Quadrant?!!?

I could have done without the time travel, future Janeway etc. I just wanted the show's regular characters, the crew I'd really come to enjoy, find some awesome way to get home, that didn't have some temporal reset aspect to it. I don't know, a wormhole, some new technology, something other than time travel. And less Borg!


DS9's was decent, a little too much on the plate, but done pretty well. Some Jadzia would have been nice, if they could have worked her in somehow. something different for Dukat definitely. I like that the Kai was redeemed somewhat before the end, but being mauled by crazy Dukat sent Pahwraiths was too corny. And something bigger and badder for the Dominion War storyline.....it's been this big war for so long, and at the end it's all "The Founder will see you in her office now, talk her into a ceasefire."


TNG's was the best, if for nothing more than the final scene.


And I have not actually seen any of TOS so can't really say.


(and ENT I didn't mention because I don't consider it Star Trek).
 
And I have not actually seen any of TOS so can't really say.


(and ENT I didn't mention because I don't consider it Star Trek).

What a pair of statements. Seeing the sequel series and not the original, but having a picture in your head as to what "Star Trek" is... Start with season one, that's all I can say...
 
UnknownSample said:
And I have not actually seen any of TOS so can't really say.


(and ENT I didn't mention because I don't consider it Star Trek).

What a pair of statements. Seeing the sequel series and not the original, but having a picture in your head as to what "Star Trek" is... Start with season one, that's all I can say...



Thanks, but I'm not watching TOS until I find a ST nerd to marry. He can de-Star-Trek-virginize me on our wedding night.
 
Star Trek (Turnabout Intruder): Crap.No stars for this piece of shit.

The Next Generation (All good Things): **** Awesome and clever time travel.I loved the way they weaved three seperate time periods together as well as gave a great send off for the crew.

Deep space nine (What You Leave Behind):**** Though it dragged a bit with Vick fontaine I thought it went out with a bang. Plus the heartfelt goodbye with Odo/Kira and the final pan away shot made this one unforgetable.

Voyager (Endgame): ** Great use of the Borg and the older janeway, though I still think we got cheated by not getting to see what happened after the crew got home. And the use of Time Travel to get back was to me lazy writing.

Enterprise (These Are The Voyages):* And that one star is only because it's at least watchable. The regulars were treated like guests on their own show,a story with a completely unbelievable story that didn't match the TNG episode it was portraying, and Riker and Troi are completely past their prime to play themselves in their prime.After the great episodes that made season 4, this was a complete slap in the face to fans more than a thank you.Just one final reminder by Berman and Braga of why they needed to step aside as show runners.
 
Thanks, but I'm not watching TOS until I find a ST nerd to marry. He can de-Star-Trek-virginize me on our wedding night.

Marry Me!!

Anyway...

TOS/Turnabout....
3 Stars out of 5 Stars
Good episode, if only that. Nothing spectactular. Certainly not a BIG FINALE. Which even "The Counter-Clock Incedent" seems to fit better with, if only for introducing us to Capt. April.

TUC:
Five out of Five
A perfect movie. I love it so much. I've never understood the love of WRATH OF KHAN aside from Kirk quoting "A Tale From Two Cities" at the end. The "Peter Pan" ending fits the character, and TOS in general, so much better.

TNG:
Five Out of Five
"All Good Things" is the perfect ending for TNG. Nevermind "Nemesis." Q was used perfectly, and Patrick Stewart put in a better performance here than anything he's performed before or since. Honestly, if I were to show anyone TNG I'd show three episodes: "Encounter at Farpoint" (If only to introduce everything), "The Inner Light," (Because I think it's the best thing the franchise has ever accomplished), and "All Good Things," (Because, even though it gives away the ending of the series, it's well-developed and you feel for the characters).

NEM:
One Out of Five:
I never made it all the way through this one. I got about an hour through it and had to turn it off. Never had to do that to one of the movies before. Even TFF had enough to sustain me through the whole movie. This was just bad.

DS9: What You Leave Behind:
Four Out of Five:
I was never huge into DS9, but, other than the absence of Jadzia, I'd say this was the logical ending, and, in some places (Odo and Kira) rather touching for the characters.

ENT:
Two out of Five
I'm sorry, but I've seen nearly every episode of this series, and I've never once felt for the characters. Having it end as one big Holodeck episode is rather fitting for my feelings about it. Boring, boring, boring.
 
I think what pissed me off the most at the time about Endgame was that it had this "do over" feel to it -- that Janeway had to go back in time and redo the crew's journey home. Sorry B&B, but the Voyager crew I adored, would have gotten it in one, thank you very much. I really wanted some epic means by which they make it back to Earth....and some time onscreen of the reunion!

Man 7 years later and I'm still bitter!!!
 
TOS: * (TI), *** (TUC)
TNG: ***** (AGT), *** (NEM)
DS9: ****
VOY: ***1/2
ENT: **** (TP), * (TATV)
 
TOS "Turnabout Intruder" *
"Star Trek VI The Undiscovered Country" *****
TNG "All Good Things..." *****
"Star Trek Nemesis" **
DS9 "What You Leave Behind" ****
VOY "Endgame" **
ENT "Demons"/"Terra Prime" *** "These Are The Voyages..." *

***** Unmissable
**** Excellent
*** Good
** Average
* Poor

The ending to TOS was just plain embrassing after the riches the series started out with. I have fond memories going to cinema no less than 3 times, (once with mates, once with family and once on my own) to see Star Trek VI. It was a finely crafted film and had the audience in the palm of it's hand each time... General Chang's demise got a cheer even during that final week in the theater. I saw Nemesis an equal number of times but more out of disbelief, wondering where TNG had gone so wrong. It's no suprise "All Good Things..." rates so highly by comparision. It's the preferable ending, despite it's reliance on technobabble.
 
Ah, screw it. My raitings:

Turnabout Intruder: * 1/2 (there were a couple of probably unintentional moments that helped make it seem like a finale where they referenced that they had been together for so long, but it's biggest problem is that it suffers from being the last episode, not the finale. Oh wait, that's not it. It's biggest problem was that it was stupid ;) ).

The Undiscovered Country: **** (big plot holes, but I still love it. Probably the first Trek movie I ever saw).

All Good Things: ***** (One of my favorite TNG episodes. Great way to do a finale. Also has plot holes, but I don't care)

What You Leave Behind: **** (Good, but not as good. Does a good job of finishing old plots and then adds a little sentimentality at the end with clips of old episodes. It feels a little less substantive, but it's still a worthy conclusion).

Endgame: ** (exciting action, not much else. Very little nostalgia either. Turnabout Intruder almost had as much unintentionally).

Nemesis: * 1/2 (The movie tried to bring closure to TNG, but it didn't work too well. Nice to see Riker finally get his own command and get married. The little bits of sentimentality after Data's death was the closest they had to reflecting back over the years. Aside from that, it was an action flick, but not a very good one. I don't know why they made it a bottle movie. TWOK made it work, but it wasn't the last Star Trek movie).

Little uncertain how I want to do this, because both episodes work as finales to some degree, so I'll review both:

Terra Prime: *** (shaky in some parts, but still very good. Has a sad ending mixed with some reflexion back - particularly with Phlox - and optomism for the future. Not a bad finale)

These Are the Voyages ** 1/2 (I think it did more in an hour than Endgame did in two. It suffers from a bad plot, which would normally completely kill any episode. But the episode was about characters, not plot. I think Trip's talk to Chef was one of the more emotional scenes in Enterprise. The chef scenes in general were a nice way to have the crew reflect back, although I'm sometimes taken out of it because of the holodeck and the idea that it's not really them talking. Worthy finale? Probably not. But it's not terrible and I think at least tried).
 
TOS (Turnabout Intruder) **
TNG (All Good Things) ****
DS9 (What You Leave Behind) *****
VOY (Endgame) **
ENT (These Are The Voyages) *
TOS Movies (The Undiscovered Country) ****
TNG Movies (Nemesis) *
 
Why TUC instead of Turnabout Intruder? Because TOS is the ONLY Trek series that didn't have a series finale. Turnabout Intruder was simply the next episode. Nemesis isn't here instead of All Good Things because All Good Things IS the TNG series finale. Which is good, because is was miles ahead of Nemesis.
 
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