Rascals
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Yeah, the Ferengi thing is the real credibility stretcher. Maybe the crew-as-children-try-to-figure-out-where-to-go-next is a nice little character piece, it isn't really a "dilemma" that can sustain a full episode. And as the production team said at the time, the hardest part was they needed a foe who would be easily defeated by children. They didn't want to cheapen the Cardassians or whoever by having them as the enemy, so the only guys left were the Ferengi.
Frankly I think whatever the circumstances, the Ferengi take over the ship far too easily. Although it seems like outdated Klingon battleships are the 1701-D's achille's heel.
Frankly I think whatever the circumstances, the Ferengi take over the ship far too easily. Although it seems like outdated Klingon battleships are the 1701-D's achille's heel.
Frankly I think whatever the circumstances, the Ferengi take over the ship far too easily. Although it seems like outdated Klingon battleships are the 1701-D's achille's heel.
Strangely, the Klingon tactical officer on the D is better to fight Klingon ships when his himself onboard another one.
I like how when they're de-aged their clothes, appropriately, are too loose and baggy when they beam in. But when they're re-aged the clothes grow with them.
"You know, I did ask if they would let us shoot this scene 'Split Screen,' so we could act this out without eachother, but they said there's no money for it and wasn't I 'supposed to be an actor,' anyway? I tried my best ... it's like they keep trying to creep me out, for some reason. They want to see how much shit I'll take. Pardon my French, I just didn't see this coming. I never asked for this and I know it must be creeping you out. I talked to your parents, they understand I had nothing to do with it. I like your parents ..."
"I know. I understand."
"I mean, you realise that my wife - the part you're playing - Keiko ... she's really a grown woman, played by an adult actress. My character would only marry a grown woman. You're the result of an accident, all very temporary, of course. But Miles, see, he's just a normal, down-to-earth guy. He's like an 'Every Man.' He likes women. Adult women, mind. Older than 18. He prefers them over 21, in fact - I don't know if you were aware of that."
"I know. I understand."
Honestly, creepiness aside, I think there's something interesting to explore there. The episode makes it pretty clear that the effected crew members aren't really children. So what does that do to the O'Brien's relationship? If they're not sure if she'll ever be returned to normal, how do they proceed? She's still mentally and emotionally an adult. Do they divorce? Does Miles wait until she "catches up"? What if she doesn't? How does this effect Molly in the long term? Is Federation society "enlightened" enough to accommodate the O'Briens should they decide to move forward?
On the other hand, these were Ferengi, which means you have a reasonable expectation that they will screw it up somehow or another. I can't recall a single instance where a Ferengi plan ever came off the way it was supposed to. What's the sense of risking anyone's life when there's a 99% chance the Ferengi will botch the takeover?
Actually, I think they used the adult uniforms. WHen they materialise, Picard';s uniform looks quite big for him.
Has anyone every bothered to look up pictures of the former kid actors to see how their adult selfs match up to the characters they played back then?
Dave Birkin who played young Picard was the same kid who played old picard's nephew Rene, from Family.
1. Jean-Luc (possibly travelled through time and) screwed his sister-in-law Marie.
2. Robert stole/asked for Jean Luc's sperms because his spunk was rubbish.
3. Robert and Marie raised a clone of Jean-Luc because they were both barren.
4. Robert travelled through time and is his own father, as well as the father of Jean-Luc and Rene who may or may not be twins.
5. Rene was young Picard travelling though time fucking with his olderself.
6. 300 years ago during the Eugenics war, "a Picard who faught in the Eugenics War" cloned himself a thousand times, putting those tiny clusters of himself duplictaed, almost a perfect man, into stasis in a vault under Chateau Picard. Whenever the family line starts to waver, if a Picard cannot pull, they reach into the Vault for another clone and start all over again with the same 20th century specimens of sexy.
7. The Romulans replaced baby Rene in the hospital as a control to see if the clmour they generated Shinzon from was any good and could pass as a Picard?
1. Jean-Luc (possibly travelled through time and) screwed his sister-in-law Marie.
2. Robert stole/asked for Jean Luc's sperms because his spunk was rubbish.
3. Robert and Marie raised a clone of Jean-Luc because they were both barren.
4. Robert travelled through time and is his own father, as well as the father of Jean-Luc and Rene who may or may not be twins.
5. Rene was young Picard travelling though time fucking with his olderself.
6. 300 years ago during the Eugenics war, "a Picard who faught in the Eugenics War" cloned himself a thousand times, putting those tiny clusters of himself duplictaed, almost a perfect man, into stasis in a vault under Chateau Picard. Whenever the family line starts to waver, if a Picard cannot pull, they reach into the Vault for another clone and start all over again with the same 20th century specimens of sexy.
7. The Romulans replaced baby Rene in the hospital as a control to see if the clmour they generated Shinzon from was any good and could pass as a Picard?
"Jean-Luc (possibly travelled through time and) screwed his sister-in-law Marie."
"Robert stole/asked for Jean Luc's sperm ..."
"Robert travelled through time and is his own father, as well as the father of Jean-Luc and Rene who may or may not be twins."
Ah, the French! Will I never understand them ... ? Vive la France!
"Robert stole/asked for Jean Luc's sperm ..."
"Robert travelled through time and is his own father, as well as the father of Jean-Luc and Rene who may or may not be twins."
Ah, the French! Will I never understand them ... ? Vive la France!
I've met a lot of French people in my life and they don't do that.
But they don't have access to time machines, do they?
"Rascals" was horrible. So very horrible.
Undoubtedly, this is exactly how Colm Meaney looked when he first got a load of the script for "Rascals." Why must the most beloved of STAR TREK series have the taint of occassional sub-par, creepy episodes? Where was the "filtering" process? The basic concept of turning the crew into kids, via magic, is sound. But demanding that one of them be married and then showing that married kid hopeful that her family life could resume is in incredibly poor taste. With judicious editing - and skillfull re-writing, "Rascals" might actually threaten to be an entertaining, solid entry in The Annals of STAR TREK: The Next Generation.
I disagree, as I already said in this topic, I find Colm Meaney pretty good in this scene. O'Brien is clearly uncomfortable and feels that his wedding and family life is doomed. In fact, Keiko's the only one to have her life's seriously screwed-up by the accident. She has so much to lose by staying a child.
Unless where are talking about imaginary spacetech beds, Enterprise would be provisioned like basically a military vessel... Is anyone going to argue that those beds are not foamrubber on a flat hard surface with entirely no giveback or bounce?
I put to you, that jumping on those beds would not only lack fun but that it is dangerous.
I put to you, that jumping on those beds would not only lack fun but that it is dangerous.
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