Random Thoughts...or...What's on Your Mind?

[JD]

One I've mentioned on here before, that still gets me, is who the hell was the crazy person who decided to jump on a horse and ride it for very first time? I mean what makes a person look at a 100lbs wild animal and think "I'm gonna go jump on it's back".
One the sanctuaries I've been following on IG and supporting for a while now was destroyed by a tornado today. The woman who runs it says everybody is OK, but all their barns and everything were completely destroyed. Luckily they have a second property, so they have a place to move all the animals. But they're going to start everything else over from scratch.

 

[Mojochi]

See this is the kind of stuff I love to think about. What was the first person to make fire thinking? They must have witnessed forest fires and fires caused by natural events like lightning, but that whole process of thinking "how can I do this?" it would be fascinating to learn.

Well, my thinking has me consider that they'd been carrying it around & transferring it quite a length of time before they themselves began to make it from scratch. It doesn't take much to get it started, just a tiny ember & a lot of work patiently feeding it air & fuel.

I really have to think the next step was accidental chipping away at a certain type of stone that sparked, and realizing that spark was just like a tiny ember. All you'd have to do is get it to catch. So there's a possible logical line of reasoning there, but I just can't figure how you make the leap to rubbing sticks together. That's maybe pure ingenuity.

One I've mentioned on here before, that still gets me, is who the hell was the crazy person who decided to jump on a horse and ride it for very first time? I mean what makes a person look at a 100lbs wild animal and think "I'm gonna go jump on it's back".

That's a good one too. They'd probably already had animals around for different uses, dogs for security, or hunting aids, some animals kept for eating, and some kind of beast of burden. Moving a log or bolder sucks. If I know some sort of big docile hooved animal is stronger than me, then I'll just rope it to them & let him do the pulling. However, it's a little tricky to get him to go in the right direction. So, I'm going to have to lead him, & eventually I'll just climb up on the thing, if it'll let me, & do it that way. That's as far as my way of thinking gets me on it. The trip to camels & horses isn't far from there

 

[Aragorn]

I think youtube is slowly working its way around things like Brave and ad blockers. I tried Brave for a month and while it was much faster then Firefox it just didn't have all the things that I am more familiar with so I went back to what I like.

It was still blocking the video but not the audio, meaning the ads were still playing. Today the ads appear to be gone.

 

[Aragorn]

What do you do when a solicitor is at the door? If they don't know anyone's home, I just ignore them. Easier than listening to them for 30 seconds before cutting them off and saying you're not interested.

Just did that with two guys who are going through the neighborhood. May have dodged a bullet. Not sure what they're selling, but they've been talking to the neighbor for the last 10 minutes.

 

[JD]

Since I don't always know who they are, I tend to open the door, but if they're trying to sell something and won't stop after the first or second no, I tend to just slam the door in their face.

Well, my thinking has me consider that they'd been carrying it around & transferring it quite a length of time before they themselves began to make it from scratch. It doesn't take much to get it started, just a tiny ember & a lot of work patiently feeding it air & fuel.

I really have to think the next step was accidental chipping away at a certain type of stone that sparked, and realizing that spark was just like a tiny ember. All you'd have to do is get it to catch. So there's a possible logical line of reasoning there, but I just can't figure how you make the leap to rubbing sticks together. That's maybe pure ingenuity.
That's a good one too. They'd probably already had animals around for different uses, dogs for security, or hunting aids, some animals kept for eating, and some kind of beast of burden. Moving a log or bolder sucks. If I know some sort of big docile hooved animal is stronger than me, then I'll just rope it to them & let him do the pulling. However, it's a little tricky to get him to go in the right direction. So, I'm going to have to lead him, & eventually I'll just climb up on the thing, if it'll let me, & do it that way. That's as far as my way of thinking gets me on it. The trip to camels & horses isn't far from there

Could be, but personally I tend to picture as more of a

kind of thing.

 

[Velocity]

What do you do when a solicitor is at the door? If they don't know anyone's home, I just ignore them. Easier than listening to them for 30 seconds before cutting them off and saying you're not interested.

Just did that with two guys who are going through the neighborhood. May have dodged a bullet. Not sure what they're selling, but they've been talking to the neighbor for the last 10 minutes.

I put a No Soliciting sign on my door. It is sticky on the back.

 

[JD]

We have one too, but apparently a lot of the people going door to door notice it, and the ones who see it don't what it means.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

We have one too, but apparently a lot of the people going door to door notice it, and the ones who see it don't what it means.

OR they just flat out ignore the sign. The big bloody sign with big letters saying "no sellers, no solicitors. No religious callers" because we have one too and more then half the time people just flat out ignore it.

 

[JD]

That was supposed to be don't notice it in my other post.
Yeah, ignoring it's a good possibility with ours too. It's just no soliciting, but it's fairly big and we put it right in middle of door, so it should be pretty hard to miss.

 

[BK613]

My sign seems to work. Though I wish I could find one that said 'except for Girl Scout Cookies.'

 

[JD]

I noticed something earlier today that I thought was kinda funny, but I'm not sure if anyone else will. Over the last 4 or 5 days I've spent time with 5 different horses and purely by coincidence 4 of them were Palominos, which is actually of one of my favorite horse colors. The 5th was a Cremello, which I think are one of the least common colors.

 

[Worf factor9]

Sometimes I just wonder what thinking in our primitive ancestors led to the practice of using friction to make fire. I mean percussive techniques (Flint striking etc...) seems pretty self-explanatory. They'd already been chipping away at all kinds of stones for tools, & some stones made a spark, when struck, & that spark is the business.

But the notion that wood on wood, rubbing vigorously, could lead to heat, and that heat could cause small, lit embers to form? Where does that line of logic originate from? Sure, they'd been woodworking in all manners, but in what manner was wood on wood friction a part of that experience? How to you get to that conclusion? From their perspective, that's some genius level shit.

Cro-magnon boy-scout leaders have always been underestimated for their genius.

 

[Mojochi]

Could be, but personally I tend to picture as more of a

kind of thing.

Maybe a bit of both. I mean we've been known to ride all kinds of animals at this point, and while the very 1st types were probably utilitarian, to help tote loads, once we decided that in some cases the only load we cared about toting was ourselves, it probably did become a bit of a challenge/stunt to see what we could ride... & then which were especially cut out for the task. You 've got to be pretty daring to decide to ride an elephant... & we still have places where it's a dare to ride a bull

 

[fireproof78]

Sometimes I just wonder what thinking in our primitive ancestors led to the practice of using friction to make fire. I mean percussive techniques (Flint striking etc...) seems pretty self-explanatory. They'd already been chipping away at all kinds of stones for tools, & some stones made a spark, when struck, & that spark is the business.

But the notion that wood on wood, rubbing vigorously, could lead to heat, and that heat could cause small, lit embers to form? Where does that line of logic originate from? Sure, they'd been woodworking in all manners, but in what manner was wood on wood friction a part of that experience? How to you get to that conclusion? From their perspective, that's some genius level shit.

Maybe making the connection of rubbing one's hands together produces heat?

 

[UssGlenn]

Maybe making the connection of rubbing one's hands together produces heat?

or "I need to make a hole in this piece of wood, lets spin this pointy stick on it to burrow through. Look, smoke!"

 

[Mojochi]

Maybe making the connection of rubbing one's hands together produces heat?

That's about the only line of reasoning I can track it to as well. It's still a pretty big leap in thought to connect the heat from a fire vs general rubbing (like with hands) being something you can conjure flames with though. Presumably, no one ever produced fire from other more general rubbing

or "I need to make a hole in this piece of wood, lets spin this pointy stick on it to burrow through. Look, smoke!"

That's very possible too. In some way, a piece of wood having been rubbed or bored until smoke appears, but it would truthfully be pretty rare/unusual to be trying to make holes in wood with other wood, when stones would routinely be used for that. Still it may very well have happened that way

It just seems to me that something rather common & obvious must've been happening en masse to get everybody doing it around the world, beyond just word of mouth.

Actually, the fire plow method (Like Tom Hanks in Cast Away) would seem to be the more primitive method of friction fire. I suppose people rubbing woods in that manner would'be happened more commonly in building wooden things, for them to have maybe seen smoke from it, & then the hand drill method was a refinement.

 

[bdub76]

We have one too, but apparently a lot of the people going door to door notice it, and the ones who see it don't what it means.

Nothing good ever happens from opening your door to some random stranger.

 

[auntiehill]

Nothing good ever happens from opening your door to some random stranger.

Unless said stranger is from the Publisher's Clearing House Sweepstakes.

 

[Velocity]

I noticed something earlier today that I thought was kinda funny, but I'm not sure if anyone else will. Over the last 4 or 5 days I've spent time with 5 different horses and purely by coincidence 4 of them were Palominos, which is actually of one of my favorite horse colors. The 5th was a Cremello, which I think are one of the least common colors.

I like Buckskin horses and Appaloosas.

 

[Worf factor9]

Maybe making the connection of rubbing one's hands together produces heat?

Ya gotta' start somewhere, then it's experiment, experiment...then you get Fire! Mag-ohh-Presto!!!

Magic has to be practiced to do it properly, yes I have a rabbit in my hat.



















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