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If you ask me, I think the FBI fucked up and needed a fall guy again. There is no way it's another case of a gun being dumped with words edged on the bullets. But if it's him, but I'm glad he turned out to be a MAGA fan. The call for arms to fight the "intolerant left" made me uncomfortable
If you ask me, I think the FBI fucked up and needed a fall guy again. There is no way it's another case of a gun being dumped with words edged on the bullets. But if it's him, but I'm glad he turned out to be a MAGA fan. The call for arms to fight the "intolerant left" made me uncomfortable
It was an intentional (yet unconvincing) attempt to spin the story away from the truth. In reality it was just some letters stamped into the back of the casings to identify the manufacturer.
So it's not technically against the rules, but I do think we'd want to err on the side of caution and not throw around unsubstantiated conspiracy theories.
So I somehow managed to miss the connection to Birb-of-Prey's custom title until seeing the new posts today. Just a gentle reminder to keep it "post, not poster". It should be fairly easy to refute the "evil children" idea without resorting to making personal insinuations about other members.
The thing is, much of what he said was incendiary, whether he said it politely or not.
He opposed the Civil Rights Act. He opposed gun control, and he wanted women to give up on having careers to have babies. He supported rolling back LGBT rights. He once said he would force his own daughter, even at the age of 10, to risk her life to give birth, if such a terrible situation came about.
I don't know where you stand on those issues, but I for one think he was certainly being inflammatory.
I know Charlie Kirk mostly from watching YouTube shorts. What did he not like about the Civil Rights Act and which LGBT rights did he want to roll back?
I can understand why he wants women to give up their careers to have babies since the birth rate in Western countries is very low. However, I don't agree with him. People who don't want children should not be pressured to have children. Children need parents who want them and love them.
I know Charlie Kirk mostly from watching YouTube shorts. What did he not like about the Civil Rights Act and which LGBT rights did he want to roll back?
I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt here, and assume you don't know, and are honestly asking, and not trying to just drag someone into a stupid debate hinging on "he only implied..." or "he technically didn't say..."
First, however, let me say that I know tempers are flaring right now in the United States, and I have no desire to inflame things further. So, I'll start by saying that political violence is not the right answer, and that as much as I found Kirk's opinions abhorrent, he did not deserve to die because of them.
OK, we good?
I also feel, however, that it is incumbent on us not to sanewash Kirk's views. The opinions and ideas he expressed were harmful to multiple segments of the population, and just because he was tragically murdered, we should not forget who he was.
I have tried to find information specifically on Kirk's views on the Civil Rights act and the LGBTQ+ community, as you asked for. I have used his own words, and have tried to provide date references where possible, so that you can confirm them yourself if you have doubts. I am going to put this behind spoiler code, because I don't feel the need to subject our members to these (in my opinion) vile views, unless they wish to see them.
Civil Rights Act
Speaking at America Fest in December 2023, Kirk said, "We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the mid-1960s."
At the same event, Kirk also said of Martin Luther King Jr., "MLK was awful. He's not a good person."
In April 2024, Kirk said in a video for his streaming show, "The Civil Rights Act, though, let's be clear, created a beast, and that beast has now turned into an anti-white weapon."
LGBTQ+ Rights
Kirk has constantly expressed his opposition for same-sex marriage rights, and has repeated on more than one occasion that he feels "marriage is between one man and one woman". He specifically criticized the US Supreme Court's ruling on Obergefell v Hodges, which guaranteed same-sex marriage rights across the country, in a episode of his streaming show in April 2022.
He was also against same-sex couples adopting children, stating that "I think that monogamous heterosexual marriage should be a prerequisite to adoption" in an episode of his show in January 2023.
In April 2024, again on his streaming show, Kirk expressed his support for ending health-care rights for transgender people, saying "We must ban trans-affirming care--the entire country."
In a June 2024 episode of his streaming show, Kirk implies that gay people don't have a right to life: "It says, by the way, Ms. Rachel--you might want to crack open that bible of yours--in a lesser referenced part of the same part of scripture, is in Leviticus 18, is that 'thou shall lay with another man, shall be stoned to death'. Just saying. So, Ms. Rachel, you quote Leviticus 19, 'Love your neighbour as yourself', the chapter before affirms God's perfect law when it comes to sexual matters."
I'm sure there's more out there, but you get the idea, and I'm tired of wading through this garbage.
So he never explained why he hated the Civil Rights Act and MLK?
While I agree with some of Charlie Kirk's views, I don't agree with any of that. There are plenty of monagamous heterosexual marriages that produce extremely dysfunctional children and I have yet to see any statistics that prove same-sex couples or single parents are worse. Although I'm against gender transitioning for children, I think adults should be allowed to do whatever they want to their bodies. Otherwise, you'd also have to ban plastic surgery and tattoos.
So he never explained why he hated the Civil Rights Act and MLK?
While I agree with some of Charlie Kirk's views, I don't agree with any of that. There are plenty of monagamous heterosexual marriages that produce extremely dysfunctional children and I have yet to see any statistics that prove same-sex couples or single parents are worse. Although I'm against gender transitioning for children, I think adults should be allowed to do whatever they want to their bodies. Otherwise, you'd also have to ban plastic surgery and tattoos.
Said his 10 year old daughter should carry her rapist baby to term, that gun deaths are necessary to protect the 2nd ammendment, that the murderer of the democratic politicians should be bailed and that empathy is a New Age word that destroys things and that he hates it.
I'm quoting from memory, so I'm sorry if it's not literally his words
I've just been focusing on clearing stuff out of my life and cleaning up my act. I've came a long way for sure. The past year has been a challenge, but I've overcome most of it. Still more to go. I look at all this talk about Political stuff in the world, and I have zero interest in allowing my mind to be occupied by it. I find more pleasure talking a walk in the woods, getting outside, collecting my thoughts, rather than getting angry at things I can't control.
