Radical Format Update
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VOY never had enough a sense of jeapordy or isolation to make it feel like a crew facing the unknown.
A mission in another galaxy would be good if they got the feeling of it right.
A mission in another galaxy would be good if they got the feeling of it right.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume that the "format" for the new show isn't going to be much different than how it was for most of the other shows; i.e. a crew on a ship going from planet to planet and meeting aliens of the week.
It's not so much that the format necessarily needs to change. If that were the case, then it would be just some other show with Star Trek in the title. It's more that the storytelling aspect needs to be more interesting.
It's not so much that the format necessarily needs to change. If that were the case, then it would be just some other show with Star Trek in the title. It's more that the storytelling aspect needs to be more interesting.
You are not alone in this view. A man I respect very much who has had his hand in the Star Trek universe of shows and movies and books and conventions and on and on... holds to this view stating you would still have the same basic format (even if expanded to the universe rather than in a local section of this solitary galaxy) where actors would wear rubber appliances and have the same dialogues...
But you see, THAT is the constant which makes it forever our beloved Star Trek.
Star Trek was always cutting edge.
It was multi-cultural when there were few cultures on television other than Wonder Bread America. African Americans in various roles (Uhura being the regular), a Russian navigator, a Japanese helmsman.
Kirk uttered the first cuss word on American TV "let's get the hell out of here."
Even though femininity was still in its exploitation phase (in those days)... Star Trek took the cutting edge liberating fashions of the 1960's and channeled them into professional "business" apparel. So the introduction of femininity into such masculine settings was both beneficial for women and admittedly titillating for men.
It was multi-cultural when there were few cultures on television other than Wonder Bread America. African Americans in various roles (Uhura being the regular), a Russian navigator, a Japanese helmsman.
Kirk uttered the first cuss word on American TV "let's get the hell out of here."
Even though femininity was still in its exploitation phase (in those days)... Star Trek took the cutting edge liberating fashions of the 1960's and channeled them into professional "business" apparel. So the introduction of femininity into such masculine settings was both beneficial for women and admittedly titillating for men.
True enough. Even Star Trek with the best of intentions of remaining true to E=MC2, fudged quite often to speed up the show and avoiding drearily long transits.
But I have a new technology for long transits but keeping warpdrive for local travel (akin to warp versus impulse drives today). Quantum Phased Lensing.
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You must not have been watching TV in the 60s. Trek was part of a trend, not on the cutting edge. Other shows had non whites and non Americans as co-stars, not just as supporting players. So even in this Trek comes up a bit short.
No matter how isolated and unknown the situation may be, how much of a sense of jeopardy can there possibly be when we know the stars will be back in the next episode?
So, basically, Game of Thrones the shit out of it.
I grew up in the 60's. I remember the Lebanese That Girl and the Black Julia and the Women teachers on Room 222 and the on and on... BUT you proceed from a misunderstanding!
I said MULTI-cultural, friend. Black Female communications officer, Japanese helmsman, a Russian navigator a Scottish chief engineer, an Vulcan science officer where two Jewish males a Jewish female (while Grace Lee Whitney was still onboard) starred.
Not a Hogan's Heroes fan? What about The Man From Uncle? Both shows had multi cultural casts. I-Spy featured a black man as the lead. So again, Trek was part of trend of multi cultural representation, but not on the cutting edge of that trend.
And come on, a Vulcan is no more "multi cultural" than a witch, a genie or a robot.
Not sure that Jewish actors and actresses were rare on TV in the 60s. The aforementioned Hogan's Heroes had three Jewish actors in it's main cast. Paul Newman, a major star of the era, was Jewish.
My Fav Martian? You missed one.
Wasn't going for a complete list.
What's your point? Route 66 preceded Star Trek, obviously.
They can use any technology they want to go to any galaxy they want and it won't change the show one bit.
Saying that you're a billion light years away doesn't mean that writers are going to go there and discover something new. They'll be sitting in front of the same keyboards facing the same story and budget demands that they always have with the same kinds of imaginations and biases.
Saying that you're a billion light years away doesn't mean that writers are going to go there and discover something new. They'll be sitting in front of the same keyboards facing the same story and budget demands that they always have with the same kinds of imaginations and biases.
