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Quinto is out of the closet

You know that one of the early novels was written by Gene Roddenberry, right?

If you're thinking of the TMP novelization, my understanding is that although Roddenberry's name is on the cover, it was actually ghostwritten by Alan Dean Foster. That could just be an unfounded rumour, though.
It as the Star Wars novel what was ghost-written by Foster. The TMP novel doesn't "sound" like his writing style.

The prose and particularly dialogue is awkward enough, though, to suggest that it was either marked up by GR or that he wrote passages of it; certainly he must have approved it. Even on a tight schedule Foster's generally better than the TMP novelization, and I don't see stuff like the explanation for Kirk's middle name coming from anywhere other than the clumsily prurient recesses of Roddenberry's psyche.
 
Well I was just standing here, and Tom Cruise locked himself in the closet
I asked myself why won't Tom Cruise just come out the closet?
Nobody has no answers, and so I pull out my gun!

Tell my why Tom Cruise in the clsoet or else I'm gonna shoot someone!
 
An obvious 'phobe. You fit right in with the majority of Star Trek fans.

hmm, lets see what happens when you change just two words in that sentence;

An obvious buttmonkey. You fit right in with the majority of gays.

now, I don't know about you, but that seems a little bit... prejudiced?
so maybe think a bit more before you start accusing people of being homophobes, ok?

and gosh, I really hope you're a troll...
Beyond Antares' post could no doubt have been better-considered, but I can sort of get where he was coming from and I spoke to that here, which ought to have been sufficient.

Now, while it would be unreasonable of me to expect that no one else would want to reply to his post, what I do not want to see is the sort of would-be backseat moderation exemplified by WinstonSmith's post above, in which he attempts to school someone he supposes a troll, only to end up looking more than a little trollish himself. One thing I particularly do not wish to see is a second such example from Mr. WinstonSmith.


Now, if we could manage to do without personal criticisms of fellow posters and please get back to discussing the topic of Zach Quinto's decision to more openly discuss his sexuality and what impact that might (or might not) have on things?
 
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When it comes to ST: Enterprise, lack of a gay character likely resulted in lower rating in the late teens through early thirties demographic. The absence was obvious, noted and commented upon.

:wtf: Lack of gay characters hardly had anything to do with Enterprise's ratings.

Neither Ellen or NPH were as highly ranked as Quinto when they came out.

Wha? How is this ranking being done? Sorry to say, but Quinto is kind of a nobody compared to those two.
 
When it comes to ST: Enterprise, lack of a gay character likely resulted in lower rating in the late teens through early thirties demographic. The absence was obvious, noted and commented upon.

:wtf: Lack of gay characters hardly had anything to do with Enterprise's ratings.

Neither Ellen or NPH were as highly ranked as Quinto when they came out.

Wha? How is this ranking being done? Sorry to say, but Quinto is kind of a nobody compared to those two.
Quinto is an up an coming A-list Ellen when she came out was B-list and NPH who had not really made his big come back left was almost C-list. NPH now is a solid B.
 
I have to say, after watching HEROES, I'm not really surprised. He just has that demeanor to him. However, do I have a comment on it? Not really. I don't want to sound like a jerk too much, but in this day and age, I don't believe anyone should get Kudos for "Coming Out" If anything, he's now helped his career more.

I simply don't understand some struggles. I understand with admitting you're homosexual in 1950's America or in an overly Religious Family, but in the Entertainment World of the 2000s I don't see it as a big deal, and I am not too sure Quinto sees it that way either. Perhaps that is why he simply kept quiet about it for so long. To those secure enough (or not radical activists) it simply isn't a big deal.
 
as pretty much the only decent thing about heroes, and given that his demeanor was mostly just creepy or murderous im not sure what he means
 
I have to say, after watching HEROES, I'm not really surprised. He just has that demeanor to him. However, do I have a comment on it? Not really. I don't want to sound like a jerk too much, but in this day and age, I don't believe anyone should get Kudos for "Coming Out" If anything, he's now helped his career more.

I simply don't understand some struggles. I understand with admitting you're homosexual in 1950's America or in an overly Religious Family, but in the Entertainment World of the 2000s I don't see it as a big deal, and I am not too sure Quinto sees it that way either. Perhaps that is why he simply kept quiet about it for so long. To those secure enough (or not radical activists) it simply isn't a big deal.

I wish what you said was true. We will know for sure if Quinto's star keeps ascending or if it gets derailed.
 
I've had Bi-dar all my life...

And I believe that Mr. Quinto had Sy-lar... :guffaw:

But relevancy isn't really all that important around here. :p
 
I would suggest that anyone who doesn't think that a successful young actor coming out of the closet is not a big deal has no real understanding of the amount of heterosexism that remains both in the entertainment industry and American culture at large.

Remember: There are more states where it's legal to marry your cousin than there are where it's legal to marry someone else of your sex.
 
Personally, I applaud Zachery Quinto for coming out. This is the 21st century, there are gay people who act. Get over it and move on. I also concur that this is non-news like when George Takei came out.
 
Personally, I applaud Zachery Quinto for coming out. This is the 21st century, there are gay people who act. Get over it and move on. I also concur that this is non-news like when George Takei came out.

Saying that it is non-news is actually the wrong thing to do. It is news. Just like Obama being the first African American President of the United States is big news. It IS a big deal. It is important that it is a big deal. It was important to Quinto that it is a big deal, he said so in the interview.
 
Seriously? Do gays have a different demeanor?

You don't have Gaydar?

Do you seriously want to tell me that one can spot homosexuals? What the fuck is this?

Not always but yeah most of the time I can tell. It's not a "they are a flamer" thing. But you get a feeling and generally it's true.

Quinto is in no way a flamer but I could tell long before I knew for a fact. The same went for Matt Bomer , Sean Meher and Taylor Lautner. NPH on the other hand... I didn't have a clue about him.

Studies have been presented showing that people can tell sometimes just by looking at photographs of a persons face.
 
Personally, I applaud Zachery Quinto for coming out. This is the 21st century, there are gay people who act. Get over it and move on. I also concur that this is non-news like when George Takei came out.
It was non-news to me about Zach. As I said, I thought he'd come out already. Takei was a little more of a surprise, but I'm glad he did so he was true to himself. But neither of them was really forced out. :) They came out in their own time and in their own ways.
 
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