Quinto is out of the closet
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Riiiiight.
I can only suggest, politely, that you might wish find some more substantial and worthwhile activities to occupy your time than looking for supposed stereotypically "gay" gestures in Star Trek.
CaptainJack
Lieutenant Commander
I like how on the MSN homepage it says 'Heroes' star Quinto: I'm gay
It doesnt say the New Spock. I wonder how paramount likes the publicity?
It doesnt say the New Spock. I wonder how paramount likes the publicity?
An obvious 'phobe. You fit right in with the majority of Star Trek fans. Star Trek is homophobic. Always has been.
Inquiry. Why is it homophobe? That implies one is afraid, which doesn't have to be the case.
Well I can't say I'm surprised, but nontheless I'm glad that Quinto has finally reached that point where he feels comfortable to reveal his sexuality to his fans and the media. Most gay or bisexual actors will keep their sexuality undisclosed because there is a very real risk that by being openly gay in the industry will prevent them getting work.
Quinto is now well established and has nothing to fear about revealing his sexuality to the media.
Quinto is now well established and has nothing to fear about revealing his sexuality to the media.
Looks far better and more natural this way than the OTT nerdy stiff hand version
That may be something you genuinely believe, but posts like this won't help anything one bit. Dial it back a few and avoid making it personal.
Nimoy isn't gay so this is a canon violation!
1bulma1
Lieutenant Commander
Quinto might be gay (we all knew it)but that doesn’t mean NuSpock is Gay
Have you even seen how I met your mother?
Neil Patrick is gay in real life yet he plays a convincing womanizer
Wilow from Buffy is Gay also but the actress Alyson Hannigan isn’t
Ian Mckellen is gay but Gandalf Isn’t
If people can’t seperate an actor from his character then they shouldn’t be watching movies.
Have you even seen how I met your mother?
Neil Patrick is gay in real life yet he plays a convincing womanizer
Wilow from Buffy is Gay also but the actress Alyson Hannigan isn’t
Ian Mckellen is gay but Gandalf Isn’t
If people can’t seperate an actor from his character then they shouldn’t be watching movies.
I can't speak for the majority of the fans as I haven't met the majority of them, but Star Trek itself has always been homophobic. Very rarely does the concept of gay people even raise it's head. Let's show lots of opposite sex couples without getting into the nitty gritty of it. Can't even have a same sex couple acknowledged except in the books which maybe 1% of the viewers of the movies and shows read.
Roddenberry and Berman were both well known for their views, regardless of the lip service they may have given the concept.
Roddenberry and Berman were both well known for their views, regardless of the lip service they may have given the concept.
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Unless you can point to a reputable source quoting Roddenberry, Berman, or any other power that be actually saying "We hate gays and therefore we won't allow any gay storylines in Star Trek" then that's not homophobia. Likewise if you can't find a source saying "we're scared of gays and therefore we won't etc etc" that's not homophobia. And remember that Berman and Roddenberry and the like had dick all to do with the novels which is why they're not even canon. And any attempt in the 1960s or 70s, and even in the 80s to introduce gay storylines ran major commercial risks - if you want to point the fickle finger of homophobia at someone point it at the people behind broadcast standards and the people who signed the checks at Paramount, if you must.
Homophobia is a hatred or fear of homosexuals. It is not the omission of homosexuality from storytelling. If that's the case, then any story, TV show, movie that doesn't include a gay character or storyline must therefore be homophobic in nature.
I'm tired of folks crying "homophobia" at the drop of a hat. It lessens the meaning of the word, and the fact that real homophobia is what causes people like that kid to off themselves, which is why Quinto came out in the first place.
And just because the actor is gay that doesn't mean the characters he or she plays has to be gay. Two words: Rock Hudson.
Alex
Every one mentions him, when he's gradually fading from public memory. Say Richard Chamberlain instead. A hundred and one hetrosexual romantic leading roles. Loved by housewifes everywhere for The Thorn Birds. Dr. Kildare. TV contemporary of the original Star Trek.
And I am somehow wasting seconds of my life, trying to figure out why Zachary Quinto's private life is any of my business. He's not promoting an autobiography is he? I Am Not Spock Either. Well then! Leave the drama and need for attention on the stage where it belongs.
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That's a weak argument. There's something like 700+ hours of Star Trek tv and movies, showing all sorts of facets of daily life in the Trek universe. The near-complete absence of gay people anywhere is very conspicuous and at some point you just have to say that's intentional.
OMG, Roger. What about Deep Space Nine? The episode where Jadzia met a woman from Torias' past? The major reason they didn't get together was because it was forbidden in Trill society that hosts not get involved with people from their past lives! "Rejoined" was an awesome episode!
Now let's think about another thing... how many writers could treat it right to the point that no one would call it stereotypical or pandering?
Now let's think about another thing... how many writers could treat it right to the point that no one would call it stereotypical or pandering?
The last part is how conspiracy theories grow.
Are the Bond films homophobic because in 22 films there have never been gay people? I think two were gay, but they were bad guys!
How amusing that you write that accusatory and unfounded nonsense when your signature says "Don't be a douche".
None of Trek's 700+ hours feature bestiality either. Rodenberry and Berman clearly had no respect for the lifestyles of people who want to have sex with animals. How evil and intentional of them.
And OT, congratulations to Quinto. I'm sure his public coming out will only strengthen his commitment and visibility in the gay rights movement.
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