Quick Poll. The WOW signal...

Discussion in 'Science and Technology' started by Gingerbread Demon, Nov 12, 2015.

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Do you think the WOW Signal was in fact a signal or not?

Poll closed Nov 24, 2015.
  1. Was an actual signal from space

    4 vote(s)
    23.5%
  2. Fluke of nature

    6 vote(s)
    35.3%
  3. Unicorns

    3 vote(s)
    17.6%
  4. Space candy

    4 vote(s)
    23.5%
  1. arch101

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    Pretty sure the transmission reads: "we like Banacek"
     
  2. 2takesfrakes

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    The "WOW!" signal is nothing more than some Earth-based transmission that happened to reflect off of some space debris in Low Earth Orbit.
     
  3. Asbo Zaprudder

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  4. Gingerbread Demon

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  5. Asbo Zaprudder

    Asbo Zaprudder Admiral Admiral

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    Unfortunately, the aliens are all on Tumblr.
     
  6. Crazy Eddie

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    So much for them being intelligent...
     
  7. Dryson

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    The WOW signal - https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...The+WOW+signal

    The signal came from a location 122 ± 4 ly away from Earth. How is it possible that a concentrated burst of hydrogen that resonates closely to the signal remain concentrated for 122 ly?

    Unfortunately, as spaceship velocities approach the speed of light, interstellar hydrogen H, although only present at a density of approximately 1.8 atoms/cm3, turns into intense radiation that would quickly kill passengers and destroy electronic instrumentation. In addition, the energy loss of ionizing radiation passing through the ship's hull represents an increasing heat load that necessitates large expenditures of energy to cool the ship.

    http://gizmodo.com/5957697/super-fas...you-in-minutes

    Based on the above article could the signal detected have actually been hydrogen accelerated to the speed of light by some form of alien technology meant to be tested for long range equipment destruction so humans could not defend themselves from an interstellar attack?
     
  8. BillJ

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  9. Dryson

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    Billj....explain then how a hydrogen blast from 122 ly away from Earth would have remain concentrated while it traveled through space.

    Well Billj....anytime.
     
  10. sojourner

    sojourner Admiral In Memoriam

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    You do understand that the signal isn't actual hydrogen being transmitted at us? It's radio waves being transmitted on a wave length congruent with hydrogen.

    See post #8 in this very thread for some possible causes.
     
  11. Asbo Zaprudder

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    Dryson, the 21 cm (1.420 GHz) neutral hydrogen line is microwave radiation emitted when the electron in an unbound hydrogen atom spontaneously changing its spin from parallel to antiparallel to the spin of the single proton in the nucleus.

    http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/cosmos/S/Spin-flip+Transition

    The line is most usually associated with neutral hydrogen clouds and was used to confirm the spiral structure of our Galaxy in the 1950s. See, for example, http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1958MNRAS.118..379O
     
  12. Dryson

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    You said clouds which is a consistency that occurs at a constant rate.

    Why hasn't the phenom been recorded more than just once then if clouds are a constant?
     
  13. Asbo Zaprudder

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    Whut? Where did I say clouds are a constant? I don't even know what that means. The technical term is H1 region. They are persistent, at least over the lifetime of puny humans.
     
  14. Dryson

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    You said hydrogen clouds. Read your post. The line is most usually associated with neutral hydrogen clouds

    Are clouds not a constant on Earth?

    Planet X? Probably not, but weird readings spark debate
    An array of radio telescopes in Chile has picked up weird readings that appear to be coming from far-out objects – and that’s sparked a debate over whether they’re previously undetected worlds on the edge of our solar system, brown dwarfs, or just random glitches.
    Could it be yet another star associated with Alpha Centauri? The researchers rule out that scenario on the grounds that it hasn’t been seen before in other wavelengths. Instead, they say the best explanation is that the object is in our own solar system, but orbiting at a distance that’s too far for detection in other wavelengths.
    Among the possibilities cited in the paper are a dark, icy world that’s more than 100 AU away, or a super-Earth that’s about 300 AU away, or a super-cool brown dwarf that’s out in the Oort Cloud, 20,000 AU away.
    Image credit: NASA / JPL / Caltech (artist's conception)


    http://www.geekwire.com/2015/planet...tm_source=plus.google.com&utm_campaign=buffer
     
  15. Silvercrest

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    We have a lot of neutral hydrogen clouds here on Earth?
     
  16. Crazy Eddie

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    Well, no, clouds of neutral hydrogen are NOT a constant on Earth.

    What does ANY of that have to do with the "wow" signal?:confused:
     
  17. Dryson

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    Read the entire article....someone have an olive?
     
  18. Dryson

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    http://www.universetoday.com/119068/how-can-space-travel-faster-than-the-speed-of-light/

    This article discusses how space travels faster than the speed light.


    If space is expanding like the article mentions then space itself would function as a wave length form with valleys, troughs and an equilibrium.

    Thus theorizing based on having driven boats and wet bikes before on various types of water surfaces ranging from smooth to foot waves and running the wake behind large personal craft, space would operate in various waveform lengths similar to water.

    Perhaps there was an interaction between the hydrogen and space itself where space accelerated the hydrogen to near light speed velocities or faster allowing the group of particles to travel to Earth from the thought speculated point of origin 122 ly from Earth.

    Maybe even that space accelerated the hydrogen to a velocity great enough where the hydrogen came in contact with Anti-Higgs Boson's that removed the particles that add mass to the particle creating hydrogen but allowed the based part to remain. Then through another interaction the group of parts came into contact with Higgs-Boson's that added mass back creating the the hydrogen particle group that was able to travel 122 LY without being dispersed like a cloud would be.

    A sudden unexpected occurrence taking place like the Wow signal can be explained best by thinking of it like the Big Bang. Everything is functioning normally then all of sudden there is this signal that has not since been repeated that if such an occurrence was normal then more signals would have been recorded since the first Wow signal.

    It's aliens...because it alien.
     
  19. Asbo Zaprudder

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    http://storymachine.blogspot.co.uk/2005/03/great-automatic-shannonizer.html

    http://mike.passwall.com/class/public/ethernet/shannon1/

    ETA: Out of curiosity, I fed Dryson's latest post into the inauthentic paper detector. The result was:

     
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  20. BillJ

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    Looks like people much smarter than I have already taken care of it.