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Questions of a Trekkie Noob

SecretlyMrsKirk said:
9. If there’s no money in the 23rd century, how did Uhura pay for the tribble in Trouble With Tribbles?
The way I’ve always looked at it is that, at least in the original series, Earth itself may have stopped using currency (as indeed may have other Federation worlds), but for the purposes of space travel, where there are no doubt multitudes of alien races who do still use currencies, officers are allocated credits like rations. So, they may be ‘paid’ in some kind of electronic currency, which they can use however they wish in their travels, but still technically not have an official currency per se. Certainly one of Captain Kirk’s semi-regularly heard phrases during the first two seasons was “Well Mister (INSERT OFFICER’S NAME HERE), you’ve certainly earned your salary today”, implying that a payment of some kind is in evidence aboard ship.

Though it’s also worth remembering that in “Tribbles”, Uhura doesn’t actually pay for the Tribble. Its actually gifted to her for free by Cyrano Jones. :)
 
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You can sorta see the natural color in this publicity shot.

Anyone else reminded of David Bowie and Mick Jagger?

I am currently working on a fanfic

You might want to wait until you're much more familiar with the series.

8. What is a stardate? How does it work? Why is it used instead of normal dates?

It was so that people wouldn't get hung up on the irrelevant minutae that.... they have gotten hung up on. It also gave the writers some flexibility so they could focus on the important parts of their craft.
9. If there’s no money in the 23rd century

Here's that flexibility again. They never say it's the 23rd century. In fact, several episodes suggest otherwise.

13. Why do some planets have numbers after their names?

Because... they do. In reality.

14. How exactly is the Federation related to Starfleet? (I feel SO bad for asking this!)

How is the US related to the US Navy?

15. Why does the Romulan race have the same features as Vulcans? They’re not from the planet, are they?

See, this is where you just need to do your homework. Learn something first. Then write about that thing.

16. How come Sulu’s daughter was never mentioned until Generations?

She was from another dimension and only arrived later.

18. Is Kirk the only one who calls McCoy ‘Bones’?

Except for once, yes. It was a smart gimmick by Roddenberry to show the two men had history.

19. If Saavik is a Vulcan, then why did she cry during Spock’s funeral?

Allergies.

But it just goes straight over my head most of the time.

yes.
 
SecretlyMrsKirk said:
9. If there’s no money in the 23rd century, how did Uhura pay for the tribble in Trouble With Tribbles?
Though it’s also worth remembering that in “Tribbles”, Uhura doesn’t actually pay for the Tribble. Its actually gifted to her for free by Cyrano Jones.
It pretty obvious from the scene that she intended to purchase it.

The way I’ve always looked at it is that, at least in the original series, Earth itself may have stopped using currency
With the scene with Uhura, they would almost have had too, she didn't seem to have any pockets, not even some place for a debit card/device.

It might have been like with Beverly Crusher, she just declare that she wanted it, charge it to hers account, and where the account was (the ship). All voice print.

:)
 
Here's that flexibility again. They never say it's the 23rd century. In fact, several episodes suggest otherwise.

I was always sure it was 200 years in the future based on the line from Space Seed. Kirk said Khan and his people left earth "two centuries" before. 1996 was only 30 years ahead of when we saw that.

Then Okuda et al decided it was exactly THREE hundred years after the date of production.
 
It might have been like with Beverly Crusher, she just declare that she wanted it, charge it to hers account, and where the account was (the ship). All voice print. :)
See, there we have it. More contradictions. :) Roddenberry was insistent that even if the original series had money, then TNG would have given it up by then. But right there in the pilot episode is an instance which very distinctly implies some kind of currency exchange.

I think there are too many variables for us to accept that money has ceased to exist completely. In cases where our crew go shopping on non-Federation alligned worlds, they would still need some kind of money. Later episodes would imply they can get anything they want from a replicator, but it seems too convenient and would also, again, make it difficult for personel to go shopping during their shove leave on planets like Deneb, who evidently have their own currency and wouldn’t be likely to accept trade in exchange for goods.

Money makes the world go round, and it’s one aspect where I think TNG was simply naive rather than optimistic. Of course there will still be money in the 24th century.
 
Here's that flexibility again. They never say it's the 23rd century. In fact, several episodes suggest otherwise.

I was always sure it was 200 years in the future based on the line from Space Seed. Kirk said Khan and his people left earth "two centuries" before. 1996 was only 30 years ahead of when we saw that.

Then Okuda et al decided it was exactly THREE hundred years after the date of production.

I usually got the impression it was the early 23rd century, which is consistent with being about 200 years after 1996.
 
The 200 years reference pops up more than once.

Tomorrow Is Yesterday said:
FELLINI: I am going to lock you up for two hundred years.
KIRK: That ought to be just about right.
 
Firstly, I would like to introduce myself. I am SecretlyMrsKirk, the secret wife of Captain Kirk (is there any other kind? :p) But you can call me Beth.

Well Beth, you came to the right place. Well, actually I'm new here too...but...I showed up at the right place...

Shut up, I was going somewhere with this.


I’m twenty years old, a student, a writer, a rambler. My first introduction to Star Trek was through my dad, the biggest nerd I have ever known, so I’d always been aware of it, pretty much since I was a toddler. We would watch Voyager together while I sat on his lap. I still have fond memories of admiring Captain Janeway and B’Elanna. But I was never a huge fan; it was one of the things that my dad and I did together as father/daughter. No, it wasn’t until February this year that I started watching The Next Generation on CBS Action channel in the UK, and then The Original Series in April. Not telling you why I was so suddenly compelled to, but let’s just say a guy was involved. Ugh. Anyway, enough of that.

Well, always good to start, even if it's through infatuation.


1. What do the different coloured uniforms mean? Why are some yellow, blue and red?

Color is for division. For example, Kirk wears yellow (or gold as some call it) and that stands for the command and operations divisions. Scotty wears red, which stands for engineering and ship security divisions. McCoy and Spock both wear blue, which are for the sciences divisions such as...well, science and medical.

In TNG though, they changed this all around. Red is for command, yellow is for engineering and security, green is for medical (it was blue at some point) and science.

2. What exactly IS warp drive? How does it work?

Well, first off, to understand warp drive, you need to understand why they have it. You see, there is no way to push a starship at the speed of light. The reason is that it would require infinite energy to push your ship that fast. Even detonating entire stars behind you will not provide the sufficient energy you need to move that fast. Worst still, at the speed of light, it'd still take years, decades, and even centuries to visit nearby systems because the galaxy is just that big.

So, as a story telling method, they invented warp drive. Now, what warp drive does is that it reduces the mass of the ship. Once the mass of a ship is reduced, then the problem of requiring infinite energy is no longer present.

To compare, pretend someone tied you to a six million pound block and told you to run. Well, that's obviously impossible. You'd never move. What warp does is effectively remove that weight so you can keep going.

3. Can a transporter work between different planets? Or other long distances?

Hmmm, I don't think it can work between planets. They did that in Star Trek XI, but that was also science from even beyond the last time we saw Voyager. There are alternatives to typical transporter technology which allows for even light years, but the technology isn't safe for repeated use, hence it isn't used.

Typically, the most you can get is an orbiting ship, moon, or space station for transporter purposes. At least for Federation technology. More advanced species can beam light years and in the 31st UFP, Starfleet can beam through time and space across tens of thousands of light years.

4. What happened to Janice Rand? And why did she only come back for the movies?

Um, I guess she moved onto other projects? Aside from a few actresses and actors from the original playing new characters, few TOS characters were shown in TNG, DS9, and VOY, save for the really big characters and even that was a rare.

5. Does Pon Farr affect female Vulcans?

If T'Pol is any indication, yes it does.

6. If it does, do they have it at the same time as their partner?

It occurs every seven years, so as long as they're the same age, then yes.

7. Do they HAVE to conceive a child every time?

No.

8. What is a stardate? How does it work? Why is it used instead of normal dates?

It's basically just code for a regular means of doing the date. Similar to military time. TOS, TNG/DS9/VOY, and ENT all did their dates somewhat differently, with the last one actually keeping a modern dating system rather than the stardates.

Here's the info on that:

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Stardate

9. If there’s no money in the 23rd century, how did Uhura pay for the tribble in Trouble With Tribbles?

The problem with Gene's vision of no money is that he still likes people to buy things. This is one of many in a long, long list of things that were bought. Sometimes they don't have money and sometimes they do.

People have reasoned this to mean that the UFP doesn't require money for people to have a standard of living. Basically, most things in the 23rd and 24th century can be replicated and energy production has reached a point where people don't need to pay for it. You could live with internet, good food, comfortable furniture, TV, a car, and so forth without ever needing to do a thing to earn it.

Of course, this is countered by the fact that if you don't improve yourself (basically, give back to the community), you're a loser. Basically, they use social pressure to propagate their economy.

Also, take note that it isn't really the 23rd and 24th century that don't use money--it's Earth and its colonies, as specified by Nog that it's humans who don't use currency (sort of). All other members of the UFP may still have a currency and economy, even if it isn't required of them.

10. What are those cartridge thingies?

During the time, they were supposed to be future floppy discs. I guess you could just think of them as large USB sticks.

11. If Decker died in The Doomsday Machine, how the heck did he get to be in The Motion Picture?

That was his father. Decker is both of their last names.

12. Could you tell me about some medical-related gadgets and how they work? (This one is actually quite important for my fanfic)

Ooh, that's a wide field. I again, refer you to Memory Alpha:

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Medical_equipment

13. Why do some planets have numbers after their names?

Because it's THE FUTURE!

Nah, just kidding. It's the number of the planet in order from its location of the sun. So if a system has six planets, the closest planet to the star is going to be say, Rigel I. The third planet will be Rigel III and the sixth planet will be Rigel VI.

14. How exactly is the Federation related to Starfleet? (I feel SO bad for asking this!)

Starfleet is the exploration and military branch of the United Federation of Planets. It's basically their space compilation of the United States Military and NASA into one.

15. Why does the Romulan race have the same features as Vulcans? They’re not from the planet, are they?

The Romulans are a cousin race to the Vulcans. Centuries ago, the Vulcan race fought many wars due to their elevated emotional state. Then Sarek brought logic and pacifism to Vulcan. The Romulans were the people who didn't like that and so left on starships to live somewhere else.

16. How come Sulu’s daughter was never mentioned until Generations?

Really bad writing.

17. How come Kirk wears a green shirt sometimes? IS NOT GOOD LOOK ON MAH HONEY.

Because he always had worn a green shirt. The original yellow uniforms were actually green, but due to the lighting and cameras, they appeared yellow. The wrap-around that Kirk wore was actually just made of a different material, so it came up as green rather than yellow.

18. Is Kirk the only one who calls McCoy ‘Bones’?

Hmmm, not sure. Probably. Spock is rather formal and most everyone else calls him 'sir' or 'doctor'. Bones in case your wondering, is an old term for doctor. Of course, they turned that into a joke-reference for the movie.

19. If Saavik is a Vulcan, then why did she cry during Spock’s funeral? Is it really THAT sad? lol

Maybe. Vulcans can occasionally show emotion under extreme duress.

20. What IS the deal with the red shirt joke? I don’t get that.

In the original series, to show that a situation was dangerous, serious, or just to heighten the tension of the scene, they'd kill off an officer. Since security wore red, it often meant that they were the ones getting shot at and killed.
 
I am currently working on a fanfic

You might want to wait until you're much more familiar with the series.

See, this is where you just need to do your homework. Learn something first. Then write about that thing.

That's clearly what she's trying to do here.

But it just goes straight over my head most of the time.

yes.

:rolleyes:
 
Strange, are the earlier postings not being displayed for certain members? The questions asked in the initial message have now been answered several times over. Is it just an effort drill the concepts into the poor lady's head via repetition? :p

Sincerely,

Bill
 
Strange, are the earlier postings not being displayed for certain members? The questions asked in the initial message have now been answered several times over. Is it just an effort drill the concepts into the poor lady's head via repetition? :p

Sincerely,

Bill
Seems to me, most posters are treating it like a test, and seeing if they can answer all the questions ;)

Mith, I believe you have a typo in your reply about Sarek bringing Logic to Vulcan. I believe that should be Surak, or something close. Sarek is Spock's father, no?
 
Seems to me, most posters are treating it like a test, and seeing if they can answer all the questions ;)

I got 20/20, how'd you do? ;) :lol:

Mith, I believe you have a typo in your reply about Sarek bringing Logic to Vulcan. I believe that should be Surak, or something close. Sarek is Spock's father, no?

Bingo. Surak=Vulcan philosopher, Sarek=Vulcan Ambassador and father of Spock.
 
Then Okuda et al decided it was exactly THREE hundred years after the date of production.

Wasn't it The Motion Picture that stated V'Ger was launched three hundred years prior?
Yep.

TMP said:
KIRK: V-G-E-R ...V-O-Y-A-G-E-R ...Voyager! ...Voyager VI?
DECKER: NASA. National Aeronautics and Space Administration. Jim, this was launched more than three hundred years ago.
 
Then Okuda et al decided it was exactly THREE hundred years after the date of production.

Wasn't it The Motion Picture that stated V'Ger was launched three hundred years prior?
Yep.

TMP said:
KIRK: V-G-E-R ...V-O-Y-A-G-E-R ...Voyager! ...Voyager VI?
DECKER: NASA. National Aeronautics and Space Administration. Jim, this was launched more than three hundred years ago.

For no particular reason, I'm more inclined to place TOS three hundred years in the future than two hundred.

Didn't we also have Data give the year as 2364 in The Neutral Zone, which pretty much tied everyone's hands going forward?
 
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For all we know, Matt Decker and Will Decker are completely unrelated. I don't know why people claim they are father and son!
 
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