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Question about Warpath and Worlds of DS9 novels *SPOILERS*

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I've just finished Warpath for the second time (fantastic novel) and was wondering if I've got this right. Were the bounty hunters hired by Iliana Ghemor to go after her mirror universe double? Is Savonigar (the Nausicaan) the same Nausicaan seen in Bajor: Fragments and Omens? And is Ghemor the woman who interrogates Hovath in that novel? Or have I got this wrong?
 
I'd just like to say how much I enjoyed the way Dave and Marco and J Noah Kym (did I get that right?) expertly pulled the wool over people's eyes as to who the real enemy was.

  1. Ooh, who's this mysterious Bajoran woman who's suspiciously familiar?
  2. OMG! It must be the Intendant!
  3. Wait - Dave introduced the Intendant as a regular part of the story in Warpath? That seems to dilute the presumably approaching "big reveal" moment.
  4. Ha ha, Sucka!!
 
There sure as heck better be or we riot! LOL...I'm kidding!

Warpath set a lot in motion, and besides the main storyline which was one of the raddest I've seen in a long time (I wonder if my review got carried over with the merge...doubtful, but we'll see), there was the stuff with Kira's vision that continued the storyline that essentially began with Rising Son, continued through Olympus Descending and now picking up again in Warpath with the Eav'Oq, the Ascendants and all that juicy goodness too...all heck's going to blow up around Bajor, and it's for that reason alone why even after so many years of it being off the air, I still love Deep Space Nine, and love what the writers have done to it.
 
JeremyW said:
I wonder if my review got carried over with the merge...doubtful, but we'll see
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well, I saved the Warpath discussion thread at the time, so it didn't get pruned, and yes it's still here.

and I love vB's search function! :D here's the search result of your posts in that thread, I'm too lazy to try to figure out which one you meant. :p

eta: ah, crap, looks like the search result only lasts for a little while. here's the thread.
 
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JeremyW said:
There sure as heck better be or we riot! LOL...I'm kidding!

Warpath set a lot in motion, and besides the main storyline which was one of the raddest I've seen in a long time (I wonder if my review got carried over with the merge...doubtful, but we'll see), there was the stuff with Kira's vision that continued the storyline that essentially began with Rising Son, continued through Olympus Descending and now picking up again in Warpath with the Eav'Oq, the Ascendants and all that juicy goodness too...all heck's going to blow up around Bajor, and it's for that reason alone why even after so many years of it being off the air, I still love Deep Space Nine, and love what the writers have done to it.
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Agreed. I'm very curious to see what, if any, progress is made on the Acendant storyline in FS.
 
Hmm... I don't think the Ascendants will be much featured in Fearful Symmetry, personally. I think that will mostly focus on what has been described as the "Crisis of Infinite Kiras" storyline.

To do the hated mapping-onto-TV-format thing, I see the parasites as the season 1 Big Bad, Iliana as the season 2 Big Bad, and the Ascendants as the season 3 Big Bad. By which i mean that there's a bit more build-up to be had yet before it really kicks off.
 
lvsxy808 said:
Hmm... I don't think the Ascendants will be much featured in Fearful Symmetry, personally. I think that will mostly focus on what has been described as the "Crisis of Infinite Kiras" storyline.

To do the hated mapping-onto-TV-format thing, I see the parasites as the season 1 Big Bad, Iliana as the season 2 Big Bad, and the Ascendants as the season 3 Big Bad. By which i mean that there's a bit more build-up to be had yet before it really kicks off.
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I've been dying to see more of the Ascendants and what this is building up to (hinted in Fragments and Omens and Warpath, among others). I don't mind the current MU-slanted storyline (D-Mack really sold me on it with Warpath) but the Ascendants... that's the one I'm really waiting for.
 
lvsxy808 said:
To do the hated mapping-onto-TV-format thing, I see the parasites as the season 1 Big Bad, Iliana as the season 2 Big Bad, and the Ascendants as the season 3 Big Bad. By which i mean that there's a bit more build-up to be had yet before it really kicks off.
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I can understand that rationale, but personally, I really think that it's all going to come to a head real quick, and the more I think about it, I concur that this "Crisis Of Infinite Kiras" storyline will occupy most of Fearful Symmetry, BUT I possibly found a hint in the vision the Prophets showed Kira that indicates that everything's about to blow up in all their faces.

In Warpath, in part of the vision, Kira and the Prophets are talking about the Celestial Temple, and talking about the Ascendants in particular. I have to re-read the scene, but I think that it's the Opaka-Prophet that says that for millennium, the Celestial Temple was hidden from the Ascendants and that it's rediscovery will beckon the Ascendants to it...now in a literal sense, one could say this has already happened that in Rising Son, Jake, Opaka and company found the Eav'Oq, and that in doing so, lit up the way to the Celestial Temple. However, one can speculate that it has not happened in the sense that fulfills the requirements of the vision and the rationale is this: at the end of Warpath, Illiana as Kira is talking about the keys to the multiverse at her fingertips, and that is in direct reference to the Orb Bracelet she recovered in the aftermath of the Sidau Massacre depicted in Fragments and Omens. And with the Orbs having come from the Celestial Temple to begin with, it was said that the Temple could have VARIOUS exit points, and that the Alpha and Gamma Terminus as we know it are only one of infinite exit points, and that they could exist in others as well. I'd like to think that somehow in Fearful Symmetry, the Celestial Temple's going to be blown right open and cause a complete access to these infinite realities, and it will be THAT action that will bring the Asecndants to Bajor and then all crap's going to fly.

Then again, that's just speculation, but we'll see. I sure hope the book comes out before I go on my mission, or else I have to wait for two years to find out if I'm right and that's going to suck.
 
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JeremyW said:
I sure don't know how to use spoilers with the VBulletin code,
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Just type the spoiler, highlight it and then click on the smilie button (the one after the php button), than a box pop ups where you put the topic of the spoiler and thats all.
:D
 
That is an interesting theory, it would definitely tie everything together.
 
JD said:
That is an interesting theory, it would definitely tie everything together.
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It also gives other parts of Kira's vision much more substance than just filler while the Deep Space Nine does 24 story take place in the book. (I'm not complaining...I love 24 and can totally see Vaughn as a Starfleet-esque version of Jack Bauer. (Although it's weird that it's a Jem'Hadar Honored Elder playing the role of Nina Myers)

The part I'm referrring to is when Kira realizes in error that the fortress that hold the Eav'Oq is NOT Parek Tonn....on a simple level, she realizes that the Bajora and the Eav'Oq built their keeps on the same plain and same foundations, but they're two distinct keeps. Sure, one can look to Bajor and Idran as the similar foundations, but now with the idea of the multiverse...hmmmm....there's something to think about.
 
Lol, so I'm not the only one of thought of 24 when reading Warpath. I remember saying that exact thing when the book came out. And Vanguard kinda reminds me of Lost, which is a very good thing, because Lost is my all time favorite TV show.
 
^ Although during my first read through, I never knew about '24'. I only found out about the show half a year later....but yeah, and Dave's gone on record to say that '24' is one of his favorite programs...wouldn't be surprised if he wrote some of the scripts for '24' under an alias because with his reputation for knocking people off, he could have been the one that scripted the nuke blow up in Valencia, or the melting of the reactors, or whatever else with a high body count.

But now I just sit and bide my time waiting for my bookstore in Calgary to get 'Day Of The Vipers' and I'll read through Terok Nor before waiting finally for "Fearful Symmetry"
 
^ Lordy, I wish that I had written some episodes of 24. Despite the fact that I find much of the show's politics reprehensible, I could really use that kind of money. Heck even one or two spec teleplay sales a year would be a blessing these days.
 
David Mack said:
^ Lordy, I wish that I had written some episodes of 24. Despite the fact that I find much of the show's politics reprehensible, I could really use that kind of money. Heck even one or two spec teleplay sales a year would be a blessing these days.
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Reprehensible how? Like the workings of the show, or the actual politics depicted on television? If so, I can agree with you on the latter...I'm tired of the 25th Amendment being used as a means to an end...but maybe if you get Manny Coto or Brannon Braga to read your books, they'll bring you on and you could do us all a favor by keeping Tony Almeida DEAD. LOL....

Anyways, with the release of Fearful Symmetry only months away, I think I'm finally going to finish compiling my Warpath FAQ/Dissection of the book and post it so everybody knows what's going on. Dave, you got any other little tidbits/insights we all ought to be looking for that haven't been mentioned yet?

Oh: Calgarians rejoice! Day Of The Vipers is out here! (I think I'm the only one)....Sorry...I'm gitty because I just had one of the stores here put it on hold for me.
 
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