Question about the link from STXI to TOS

[SalvorHardin]

I mean, so what if the technology and ships -- and the overall look -- is different for this film. This is a movie being made in 2008. The TV show was made in 1966. It's bound to look totally different. There doesn't need to be an in-universe reason for the fact that the new filmmakers wanted to update the look -- it simply looks more adavnced becuse the movie was made 42 years after the original.

As a matter of fact I would rather they do this approach than try to do alternate timelines and other crap to try and fit it all into canon.

 

[Captain Fine]

I mean, so what if the technology and ships -- and the overall look -- is different for this film. This is a movie being made in 2008. The TV show was made in 1966. It's bound to look totally different. There doesn't need to be an in-universe reason for the fact that the new filmmakers wanted to update the look -- it simply looks more adavnced becuse the movie was made 42 years after the original.

As a matter of fact I would rather they do this approach than try to do alternate timelines and other crap to try and fit it all into canon.

Agreed!

But what I think they're talking about when referring to the changes being in-canon are the whole Romulans from the future thing, not the look. Or that's what I'm hoping lol

 

[BenRoethig]

It's also possible that the movie will leave open the question as to whether or not a reboot took place.

Personally I would like to see this film end with AU Kirk having to Sacrificing the Enterprise to stop Nero. The film then goes to San Francisco with the normal universe Kirk waiting at StarFleet Command waiting for a shuttle. Kirk meets Pike coming off of the shuttle and have an altered version of the conversation that they had in the bar. With dialog something like this:

Kirk: Captain Pike. I'm Jim Kirk
Pike: Ah, my replacement. <Captain's name> from <ship Kirk was X.O.> holds you in pretty high regard. I served with your father on the Kelvin before coming the Enterprise. If you're anything like the Captain he was, you should be alright.
Kirk: Thank you captain.
Pike: You have the best ship in the fleet with the best crew. The Enterprise built a legacy second to none under my command. I think you can do better. It's time I stop holding you up, your ship is waiting. Best of luck Captain.

 

[trekkerguy]

Who cares?

Currently reading:
Wächter des Kreuzes (El último Catón)
by Matilde Asensi​

And who the hell do you think cares about what you are currently reading?

Well that wasn't completely off topic and out of place That happens to be his signature so what the hell does it have to do with the content of his post?

On topic; who cares? It is what it is and we can either accept it or not. Nothing we can do or say will change that. I personaly think and hope it's a reboot, but if they find some fangled stupid way to make it fit canon to make it please a bunch of anal nerds, I'm for that too. It's a movie, from the looks of the trailer a good, fun, exciting movie, that takes pleace in the Trek Universe. Let's have fun.

 

[c0rnedfr0g]

The alternate timeline theory may end up being true, but even if it isn't, so what?

I mean, so what if the technology and ships -- and the overall look -- is different for this film. This is a movie being made in 2008. The TV show was made in 1966. It's bound to look totally different. There doesn't need to be an in-universe reason for the fact that the new filmmakers wanted to update the look -- it simply looks more adavnced becuse the movie was made 42 years after the original.

We all have imaginations. Even if the "prequel" ship looks more advanced than the TOS ship, we can use our imaginations and just say "it's the same continuity, but it simply looks different because it's a new film."

Heresy!

Abrams is a witch (warlock?) !!!! Burn him!!

 

[Oso Blanco]

I still think that the movie will take place in the alternate timeline created in First Contact, just like Enterprise did.

 

[ST-One]

Who cares?

I do.

Yeah... but you also think that 'James Bond' is just a cover-name, so...

 

[Saul]

Which raises a good point. Why would a secret agent use his real name?

 

[blaXXer]

Abrams & Cohorts are constantly avoiding this question by saying things like "it's not quite a prequel" or "it's not quite a reboot." Then they say something like "it's kind of a combination of both, while not being similar to either at all."

At this point, I don't see how the movie could be in the same continuity as everything else, despite A&C claiming there is a canon explanation for why things look different in the movie.

This is where, you know, ACTUALLY SEEING THE MOVIE will come in quite handy. A radical idea, I know. But still, one worth considering.

THIS. A thousand times THIS.

 

[Nardpuncher]

Who cares?

Currently reading:
Wächter des Kreuzes (El último Catón)
by Matilde Asensi​

I do. And who the hell do you think cares about what you are currently reading?

Nice!

 

[Classic Fan]

LOL. This ol' debate again.



Seriously, they might not even explain the differences, the only reason they did the whole TOS Connie 'This is a more advanced vessel yet looks like its made out of lego compared to our ship' thing in Enterprise Mirror Universe eps is because the fans wanted it, personally, i doubt the Killer B's wouldve stuck in there.

Just accept that this is the same bridge and same ship as was in the show, just looks different for todays audiences, simple really.


I loved the designs for Enterprise, that was the best aspect of the show. They were really well done and a very logical transition from now-to-then with a few TOS homages such as the scanner/viewer things, touch and physical controls, the command chair and communicators (To be quite honest, realistically speaking they would be smaller and the size of a badge like TNG given our current technology).

The designers respected that aspect of design and also, respected the fans enough to let us accept that 'They look more advanced but, take it that its a prequel but also, its an update of "Our own tech" at the same time. As was TOS a 60s representation... And what did we do...?


Threw it back at them and slated them until we were Bolian Blue in the face




*Cough* Sound Familiar *Cough*



Yeah, id like the old bridge and the old girl on the screen, but this is what we got, deal with it.


That wont hold up, yeah, Vektor and Madkoifish's designs and renders are fantastic, and proved that a little change goes a long way to make the Old Girl believable on the screen. But they have decided against it.






Hell, we dont even know what they are upto until may, so...