Q Continuum vs. Borg

[Wingsley]

In order to imagine a conflict between the Q continuum and the Borg, you have to first establish...

1: What would the Q want that the Borg has? (Answer: nothing)

2: What would the Borg want that the Q has? (Answer: since the Q are still a race of advanced individuals, and probably impossible to involuntarily assimilate, again, nothing.)

So the Q would gain nothing from fighting the Borg, and the Borg would not be able to gain anything from the Q because the Borg are primitives next to the Q, so there you have a perfect recipe for lasting peace.

The whole notion of a Q-vs-Borg war sounds too fanboyish anyway. It's like seeing Commodore Decker's "Planet Killer" cruising through space... and you look closer... and there's Trelane riding it like a horse! Yeah, neat-o...

 

[Alrik]

This is essentially an extremely mismatched fight, unless the Borg were to have the aid of a Q. I'd be interested to see what exactly would happen then, since we know that Q can give mortals the power of the Q, so maybe this renegade Q would en-Q the Borg, and the Borg keep producing more drones, and so we'd have a numerically superior number of Q-beings on the Borg side unless the Continuum uses their Q powers to nip this in the bud and...

Yeah. It's sort of difficult to puzzle out what would happen even then...

But here's the problem. Renegade starts granting Borg the power of the Q. The Continuum says "I don't think so". *Snap-Flash* powers revoked from Borg and Renegade. Episode over.

 

[USS Excelsior]

But the Voyager crew took on the Q Continuum one time, and forced one of them to drop their weapons!

 

[Alrik]

^

Awe geez...did ya have to go there???



In my mind it happened because the Q chose to let it happen, m'kay?

 

[USS Excelsior]

What would have been interesting if Q remained a human and ended up getting assimilated by the Borg, then all that knowledge locked up in that puny brain would be accessed by the collective.

 

[Alrik]

What would have been interesting if Q remained a human and ended up getting assimilated by the Borg, then all that knowledge locked up in that puny brain would be accessed by the collective.

Finally! Nicely done. A plausable idea with very interesting posibilities.

 

[Solarbaby]

Maybe Q got kicked out the Continuum for being a naughty boy and stripped of his powers. In Deja Q he still possesses the knowledge of the Q and his superior IQ just not the powers to implement his thoughts. The Borg could assimilate Q and have access to this knowledge.

Whilst the Borg don't have the (magical)powers of the Q they might be able to use the knowledge to do something terrible like destroy the plane of existence that the Continuum exist in.

 

[ncriggar]

I think this "war" would be silly, and pointless. The Q can just destroy the Borg instantly. But what if the Borg assimilated a Q? Would it impart God-like capabilities on the Borg?

Personally, I'd rather see a war between the Borg and the Husnock...

 

[Mojochi]

The Borg are like ants to the Q

However, the Human race is an ever evolving, potential equal to the Q, & that is what drew their attention. In fact, because of higher nobility, Humans actually have the ability to supersede even the Q. This was the whole point of the Q plot line. The idea was to put a tangible face to what Humanity has the potential to become, & then show how that could go wrong. It's not like omnipotence was a new shtick for Star Trek. I think it was done quite well

 

[Kelthaz]

The big problem with Q is that humans are criticised each time for being barbaric (with the exception of the time when he was stripped of his powers). He was just as barbaric in his treatmeant, at times he hindered the Enterprise when they were on a mercy mission. As far as I know he never attacked ay other civilisation, he could have picked on the Klingons or even the Vulcans after all they were quite nasty before their peace loving logic days?

Just because we only see Q mess with the Federation, doesn't mean that he (or another Q) doesn't annoy the other races. For all we know Martok and Tomalok both have yearly Q visits to deal with just like Picard. The Klingons and Romulans would just be judged a little differently than the Federation.

 

[Tiberius]

What about Q2, where Q yells at his son, "DON'T PROVOKE THE BORG!"

Obviosuly the Borg are able to pose some threat to the continuum.

 

[JarodRussell]

Yeah, this illustrates one of my biggest frustrations with how the Q Continuum was imagined in the franchise. A completely omnipotent race just doesn't make much sense --- limitations are what civilize us, not complete and utter power. Otherwise you have the God(s) conundrum: if one is omnipotent, how can they stand by and watch pain and suffering and injustice, etc, ad infinitum, ad nauseam, and so on.

Humans have fun squishing the ants. Why?

What about Q2, where Q yells at his son, "DON'T PROVOKE THE BORG!"

Obviosuly the Borg are able to pose some threat to the continuum.

Not to them, but to the rest of the galaxy, I presume. The Continuum does care about the development of the universe. Which is why they sanctioned Q after he misbehaved. "Don't provoke the Borg" might be some of these rules that ensure the continuity of the rest of the species in the galaxy.

 

[Crabapple]

Well Q seemed to be scared of Guinan in the episode where Q introduces the enterprise to the borg. It certainly implied that Guinan had some sort of defense against the Q, and Q was surprised to find her there so maybe she can somehow stay off of Q's radar (i.e. Q cant read her mind).

So if all of Guinan's race has those abilities, and the borg assimilated Guinan's race, then conceivably the borg has assimilated some defense against the Q. So maybe they are resistant to direct effects from the Q. And maybe they are capable of plotting against the Q without the Q knowing it.

Maybe Q introduced starfleet to the borg BECAUSE they have some defense against the Q and the Q wanted some third party to take on the borg. I guess I'm saying there could possibly a cosmic game of rock paper scissor. Q is rock, starfleet is scissors, and Borg-aurians are paper. A stretch I know, but it seems plausible.

mmmmm.... i just hella geeked out.

 

[Solarbaby]

Well Q seemed to be scared of Guinan in the episode where Q introduces the enterprise to the borg. It certainly implied that Guinan had some sort of defense against the Q, and Q was surprised to find her there so maybe she can somehow stay off of Q's radar (i.e. Q cant read her mind).

So if all of Guinan's race has those abilities, and the borg assimilated Guinan's race, then conceivably the borg has assimilated some defense against the Q. So maybe they are resistant to direct effects from the Q.

Maybe Q introduced starfleet to the borg BECAUSE they have some defense against the Q and the Q wanted some third party to take on the borg. I guess I'm saying there could possibly a cosmic game of rock paper scissor. Q is rock, starfleet is scissors, and Borg-aurians are paper.

mmmmm.... i just hella geeked out.

That's actually a really good idea! I could see that work well in a novel or film.