It was way to hard for me to get my ps5 to give it up now for that price in this economy. I think that sums it up for most people.
PS5 Pro And Other Midgenerational Upgrades
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Yep, and I feel like North American prices could get even worse if the increased tariffs go through. This generation has been nuts. Absolutely nuts as far as pricing goes. It doesn't feel like we've had a normal console generation right from the start.
This is accurate 100%. If it's not IOS or Android they are lost. Part of the issue is the fact that schools are getting sweet deals on MacBooks and Chromebooks and shove those in front of the kids faces now. Most of the business world is still run by Windows. For better or worse.
Yep, this generation has never had to make batch files in order to squeeze as much performance (ie enabling extended memory) in a system as possible to get something running.
Dunno if any of you have turned on your PS5's today, but Sony have surprised people with 30th Anniversary Console themes, which they say they are only available for a limited time before they remove them. They're pretty extensive, down to using sounds from the PS1, PS2, PS3 and PS4 in their respective themes.
I don't know why Sony couldn't have offered similar themes before about a month ago when they unveiled the welcome centre, but these new themes kind of show they've been holding out on us
I honestly wish they would make it permanent.
I don't know why Sony couldn't have offered similar themes before about a month ago when they unveiled the welcome centre, but these new themes kind of show they've been holding out on us
I honestly wish they would make it permanent.
So I know there had been some questions on the Horizon Zero Dawn Remaster but holy mother does it look great on the Pro. I had played HZD when it was released on PC but when it was ported an update crashed everyone’s game for a while and I never finished it.
I had been planning on playing the original on the PS5 but then it rotated out of the subscription service and the remaster was announced. So long story short, I decided to play it while I wait on KCD 2 to release and whatever complaints I had prior are gone.
The YouTube videos that compared them are trash. The colors (the reds) aren’t washed out at all and the game is as stunning as Forbidden West. I can’t stress enough how fantastic it looks. And the frames are great. IDK if the remaster would look as good on the PS5 because of the frame rate but I really wasn’t expecting much from the remaster. I just wanted to play HZD and the OG version isn’t even an option in the digital store anymore.
This is a case study in misleading YouTube comparisons.
I had been planning on playing the original on the PS5 but then it rotated out of the subscription service and the remaster was announced. So long story short, I decided to play it while I wait on KCD 2 to release and whatever complaints I had prior are gone.
The YouTube videos that compared them are trash. The colors (the reds) aren’t washed out at all and the game is as stunning as Forbidden West. I can’t stress enough how fantastic it looks. And the frames are great. IDK if the remaster would look as good on the PS5 because of the frame rate but I really wasn’t expecting much from the remaster. I just wanted to play HZD and the OG version isn’t even an option in the digital store anymore.
This is a case study in misleading YouTube comparisons.
Dunno if any of you have turned on your PS5's today, but Sony have surprised people with 30th Anniversary Console themes, which they say they are only available for a limited time before they remove them. They're pretty extensive, down to using sounds from the PS1, PS2, PS3 and PS4 in their respective themes.
I don't know why Sony couldn't have offered similar themes before about a month ago when they unveiled the welcome centre, but these new themes kind of show they've been holding out on us
I honestly wish they would make it permanent.
Those themes would be very small so not even sure why they are limited, things like that should be offered for free imho
Well not console but I played the remaster on PC and it was lovely and I dug it but oddly I find myself loving Zero Dawn Complete Edition much more for reasons I can't explain.
I love Forbidden West
I think this is a case where they failed to show the differences properly, probably with showing the wrong things, that and the fact that video comparisons are going to be extremely iffy in the first place due to most video hosts like Youtube heavily compressing them. So, in my opinion they stumbled when it came to showcasing the differences and improvements.
Yeah, I know right. I also wish they'd release new ones once in a while. I kind of miss the PS3's themes that you would get with games.
The ps5 pro seem to be as popular as broken glass in your shoe, as i have never seen it out of stock anywhere, but ironically the optional disc drive seems to be always out of stock, so could this be evidence that Sony are throttling the supply of the now optional optical drive to gentely boil owners into a digital console future by default?
Of course it is. Sony are greedy fuckers why have lots of something when you can limit it and manipulate your customers?
I'd heard that in preparation for the release of the Pro, scalpers were buying up the disc drives to resell them via places like Ebay, so this could be part of the reason they're out of stock. But it is strange, because that would sabotage anyone with a PS5 Slim who wants a drive.
It's an expensive product that doesn't really have a compelling reason for its existence. The whole "ray-tracing" fad, at least to me, is somewhat of a dead end for graphics. They could be using all that GPU grunt on say, compute shaders that allowed for realistic deformation of geometry in response to gunfire which is now a pretty rare thing that you used to see more often in the PS3 era.
I think generally graphics peaked around 2015, and while there have been some very pretty games out there since they've not looked that much better, and have paid for their visual flare by having boring, sterile worlds. If we had games that weren't quite as pretty but had incredible physics and other simulation using the powerful GPUs in the base model PS5 and Series X, we could have had an incredible generation of AAA games instead of the expensive but bland stuff we have today.
I hate having to wait 10 minutes on PC, sometimes more while shaders are being compiled...... Can't they get rid of this process?
On PC, nope, there's too many SKU's of Video Cards, so you have to Pre-Compile the shaders.
Otherwise you get mid-game stutters repeatedly while it compiles in the background.
It's not a big deal.
Compile once, go get a drink / snack, then go game.
Shader compilation time is toilet break time yes.. Or I go make a snack as you say
I think Raytraycing has its place, but I think where they went wrong was in touting it as a feature with the PS5 Pro, as if it were to be one of the main factors in getting people to upgrade, especially when that had also been hyped up with the PS5 upon its original release.
I said this back when the rtx 20xx cards were dropped, that RT and 4k were going to be a hindrance and a massive drain on game development that otherwise could have benefited in every aspect if the gaming industry had chosen 1440p and 60 fps as a solid starting base, but no, and now in 2025 we have the £700 digital ps5 pro, which still has issues pushing rt and 4k at a solid 60 fps, and also we have the incoming rtx 50xx gpus which now use some form of fake frame generation because the hardware still has issues with rt and 4k on £2000 gpus. Lol
I think that can also come down to games that have become bloated and unoptimized, requiring more processing power. I've read that the problem with UE5, for example, is that developers are not choosy in what to enable, and they've been enabling all the latest bells and whistles despite not really needing them, leading to games that don't perform very well, and in turn UE5 has received a lot of criticism. In other words, they don't know when to restrain themselves. I'm sure that UE5 is a great engine that can perform well given its past history, but developers need to learn what works for their given games and not enable every feature.
Depending on the platform, there are many ways you can "Optimize" your game.
The problem is how much time you have to do so along with what kind of resources you need.
Here's one Game Dev showing a Console to PC Port and how they Optimized it.
Game dev shows how to do a PC port right, outlines 106 to 314 FPS improvement without frame generation
If the Game Dev's are given the time & resources, you can get AMAZING performance out of your game.