Proportional cast representation for season 3
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I don't remember Hungarians ever being represented on Star Trek (seriously, I had to look up Memory Alpha to even learn about Magda Kovács and Miklós Karlovassi), much less straight Hungarian males. I also don't remember ever caring about it. There have been always more than enough Trek characters I could relate to and even identify with without having to care about any form of representation.
Sorry to throw a fly in the ointment here but I think the significance of that "excluding aliens" part is understated here.
In a federation of (at the most conservative estimates) in the order of 80 sovereign worlds truly equal representation would put the number of human characters we see across the entire franchise lower than the observed number of straight white males.
Frankly the fact we have more than one human being in the cast at all is already a bias.
True, but I'm working on the fact it's really a show for humans made by humans. Call me Nigel Farage but I don't care that much about Andorian representation.
Wow---the thought of ACTUALLY COUNTING each sex, race, color, religion, and sexual orientation had not even occurred to me............should I turn in my white,straight, man card to the union?
They might make up a sizable portion of the population of Earth, but by no means the largest. And has been said many times, they are quite well represented throughout Trek, much more than any group, in a greater number of shows. There's no way you could look at Star Trek as a whole and conclude there are no straight white men in the future, but you could still look at it that other, sometimes larger groups, are now in the minority. If Trek were to be representative of the planet a as it is now, there would be a lot more Asians than there currently are, both South and East.
Hey, I'm still sad we probably don't get more Shazad Latif. He's the closest actor, in ethnicity, to me in the whole of Trek history.
Hey, I'm still sad we probably don't get more Shazad Latif. He's the closest actor, in ethnicity, to me in the whole of Trek history.
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This post FTW!
(because I can't "like" a post more than once)He's over at the Picard spinoff.
Given the amount of Chinese and Indians on Earth, its actually quite a stretch to believe that in several hundred years, they wouldn't be overly represented in a group dichotomy.
I can only remember one Indian girl in TOS, and if Michele Yeoh is Chinese, she's the only one I can remember.
And speaking as a Scot, why not get a real Scot in, instead of a Canadian/Irish guy or an Englishman pretending to be from Glasgow ?
I can only remember one Indian girl in TOS, and if Michele Yeoh is Chinese, she's the only one I can remember.
And speaking as a Scot, why not get a real Scot in, instead of a Canadian/Irish guy or an Englishman pretending to be from Glasgow ?
I'm not sure which "Indian girl in TOS" you were referring to.
Assuming you were speaking of a woman officer aboard the Enterprise, unfortunately, Naomi Pollack, the actress who played Lt. Rahda, was not herself Indian or Indonesian.
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Naomi_Pollack
Do they get points for trying? I don't know....
That's the girl, but until now I'd no idea she wasn't ethnically Indian, or even part Indian.
Points for trying ?
Possibly not.
Yeah, surely most humans in Starfleet should be Indian and Chinese women? Two most populous countries, and there are more female people on Earth than male.
When you view it that way, the amount of white American men flying around in space in Star Trek shows is laugh-out-loud funny.
When you view it that way, the amount of white American men flying around in space in Star Trek shows is laugh-out-loud funny.
Watch TNG, everyone is human in the UFP. It's a Humancentric euro zone
I find it funny some of the fans expo WW3 decimating The East hence the abundance of white humans in Star Trek. I guess the African continent was empty after the in universe war and all the non white people living in The West disappeared or had fertility issues
That got kind of awkward on Firefly too.
Plus, Riker gives the casualty total as 600 million. Even if every last one was an Asian or African woman of child bearing age, it's not going to swing the planet's demographics in favour of white people.
I don't understand the word "representation" in these contexts. People are people. It's studio execs that try to shove this idea down my throat.
Michael Burnham is a fascinating character whose development is compelling to watch. Her race, skin color, sexual preference, etc, is immaterial to me. That's not what she's about and that's not what determines my like or dislike of a character.
Michael Burnham is a fascinating character whose development is compelling to watch. Her race, skin color, sexual preference, etc, is immaterial to me. That's not what she's about and that's not what determines my like or dislike of a character.
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